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Question: Are Breen Cruisers worth it?

Poll runs till April 22nd, 2051, 9:12 pm. Total votes: 45
Never.2 votes (4%)
Once in a blue moon they are useful to counter some early battleships.5 votes (11%)
They can be useful, but the rest of the small yard is better.9 votes (20%)
They are fine. The nerfs made them perfect.6 votes (13%)
They are useful.14 votes (31%)
They are too powerful. Needs moar nerfing!2 votes (4%)
I don't know since I don't play Breen.4 votes (9%)
I don't know since I don't play the weakest faction in the game (Dominion.)1 votes (2%)
Other (please post.)2 votes (4%)
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Myles
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posted on September 2nd, 2010, 3:53 pm
Dominus_Noctis wrote:Nah nah, you aren't thinking big enough man! 3.0.2 stats! A single Breen Battleship could spew out enough disablers to crippled an entire fleet if you just kept switching targets (disabling missile was on by default, no energy cost).  :D


nah it should go back to how it was in it's first appearance on ds9. that was the only time it wasnt up :D
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 6:47 am
To me the Breen cruisers  are worth it  because  the high rate of fire and fast speed. Great for putting  to rest that pesky ship or two that sneaked by you defenses.  I myself Aginst the Ai  hard  usally  send  the cruisers  in mass waves to  soften up the  targets, while the  Breen battle ships  get on station .  I recall the  cruisers to R/R at the shipyard and  redeploy them  to releave the  battle ships. When the battle ships take severe damage I recall them to R/R . by then Ive got the closest shipyard to the target cued up to dump the ships  back to the target. I  dont use cloak much  so I  havent had a major problem on subsystem loss from the cloak.  just my 2Cnts 
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 7:27 am
I think some people misunderstand the breen cruisers cloak, and think it is useless just because you can't cloak retreat with it.

Cloak has three uses as far as I can see, offense (decloaking attack), defense (cloak retreat) and intelligence (scouting). This gives cloaking races (roms and klings) a big advantage (in terms of cloak, not at all saying they are OP).

The breen cruiser cloak is not very effective at cloak retreating, but you can still use it offensively if you have another plan on keeping them alive (backup fleet/ships etc, nearby shipyard.....) AND you suddenly have cloaked ships you can see the enemies base left. Information is a valuable resource :P
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 9:51 am
The point about the cloak is...if you see the enemy using BCs you can be sure they are with the main fleet since they are very bad in anything else but fleetattacking. So if you are almost sure that there are Breencruisers in the enemy fleet...what is that cloak good for? Maybe to hide the exact amount of cruisers...but to be true, this is not important if you ask me...

A damage bonus for 10s after decloak would be nice for the Breen Cruiser like the Disruptor Rhienn...
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 10:58 am
Drrrrrr wrote:The point about the cloak is...if you see the enemy using BCs you can be sure they are with the main fleet since they are very bad in anything else but fleetattacking. So if you are almost sure that there are Breencruisers in the enemy fleet...what is that cloak good for? Maybe to hide the exact amount of cruisers...but to be true, this is not important if you ask me...


that's not their only use.

mayhem just told u another. getting intel. intel is always good. always.

another is to plain annoy your enemy. harass with fast ships at their main, when their fleet moves to defend, decloak cruisers at their exp that is closest to a safe place for u. if u kill 1 miner at each of those attacks you have done good. and u have annoyed your enemy quite a bit.
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 12:03 pm
I like them as they are. I would suggest a more interesting vet-special, though.
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 2:39 pm
Necrorubi wrote:I like them as they are. I would suggest a more interesting vet-special, though.


lol their vet special is actually very very useful.

the vet can go harass anywhere it likes. and when its time to leave, it can cloak. without any fear of losing its cloak. as the cloak is tied to the weapons subsystem. :D
Necrorubi
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posted on September 3rd, 2010, 4:44 pm
Last edited by Anonymous on September 3rd, 2010, 5:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"as the cloak is tied to the weapons subsystem."

Forgot about that :). What about a Breen translator in addition?
By Interesting I meant something else than just a passive
dob
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posted on September 4th, 2010, 7:39 pm
Breen cruiser is horrible useless unit,with its single torpedo launcher,slow speed and high price,its waste of resources.It cant battle any other unit that battleships,his low dps slow firing un accurate torp launcher is one big joke.
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posted on September 4th, 2010, 11:09 pm
Far from useless dob, just specialised.
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posted on September 5th, 2010, 11:33 am
dob wrote:Breen cruiser is horrible useless unit,with its single torpedo launcher,slow speed and high price,its waste of resources.It cant battle any other unit that battleships,his low dps slow firing un accurate torp launcher is one big joke.


disagree with every point in this post.

u need to read the guide. :)

passives can change a battle.

a bunch of breen cruisers can make a sphere cry.

and they can make sovvies and big d cry too.

its torp launcher is no less accurate than other torps. 20% miss chance against mediums, 40% miss chance against smalls.
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posted on September 5th, 2010, 1:09 pm
Don't forget the cloak.  Expensive as as scouts but great for raiding.
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posted on September 5th, 2010, 2:45 pm
loki_999 wrote:Don't forget the cloak.  Expensive as as scouts but great for raiding.


No it isn't at all, its torps will miss 40% of the time and do less damage to small ships as well as stations (they are specialized to do well to battleships/non-small med ranged and absolutely suck against everything else.) So it does less to turrets, less to mining stations, and less to Fed/Kling/Rom miners. Even back in 3.1.2 six Breen Cruisers could barely scratch a Klingon expansion.
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posted on September 6th, 2010, 12:43 pm
Nebula_Class_Ftw wrote:No it isn't at all, its torps will miss 40% of the time and do less damage to small ships as well as stations (they are specialized to do well to battleships/non-small med ranged and absolutely suck against everything else.) So it does less to turrets, less to mining stations, and less to Fed/Kling/Rom miners. Even back in 3.1.2 six Breen Cruisers could barely scratch a Klingon expansion.


the idea isnt that they match klinks and roms as cloak raiders.

the idea is that they have cloaks and CAN raid.

your enemy might not be expecting it, and catching the enemy by surprise makes up for the breen cruiser's weaknesses.

even if u kill only a miner or two, as long as u are clever and dont lose ships yourself, you have done good. and with cloak this is quite possible.
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posted on September 6th, 2010, 1:02 pm
and its the only option the Dom have for cloaking unless they capture ships.
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