Breen Cruiser may be underpowered.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 7:33 am

I am sorry for that,so how can I quote multiple pieces of post?

By copy pasting the quote block, like this..

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I am sorry for that,
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No worries.
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so how can I
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I'm showing you, start by using the quote function.  If you need to quote multiple people from different posts then i usually just right click quote on each person's post and open in new tabs read for copy/pasting.
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Yes, the [ quote ] function.
[ quote author=dob link=topic=8181.msg139448#msg139448 date=1284015539 ]
multiple pieces of post?
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By copying and pasting the quote tags.

Just don't put spaces between the square brackets and the quote command and then it will look like this:

I am sorry for that,so how can I quote multiple pieces of post?

By copy pasting the quote block, like this..

I am sorry for that,

No worries.

so how can I

I'm showing you, start by using the quote function.  If you need to quote multiple people from different posts then i usually just right click quote on each person's post and open in new tabs read for copy/pasting.

quote

Yes, the [ quote ] function.

multiple pieces of post?

By copying and pasting the quote tags.

posted on September 9th, 2010, 12:11 pm

All these elements can be transported to game without killing teh balance

thats not true. they were tried before with the super special weapon, it was annoyingly op. it crippled everything. the special was just op in ds9. plus everyone adapted to it anyway.

and what about Scimitar,Norexan,Talvath??? but I agree,lets make new ships

scimitar was reman not romulan, also it was silly and stupid and i hate it.

talvath is a non canon name for that silly science ship i mentioned. it had no class name in canon so calling it talvath violates canon.

norexan is a non canon name for the valdore type (notice i say type and not class) from nemesis. we never knew the name of the class.

then it would be assimilated easily and be useless against borg.
yet more realistic and good game balance for changes that I want

its not really balanced if a late game ship can easily be killed by early/mid assimilators. 250 crew is far too low.

actually canon is inconsistent on that, we saw it engage at long range in ds9. same range as other ships like excel.  I didnt saw that one,what episode that was?

it was the first ep the breen ships appeared it, the second battle of chin'toka, it was called "The Changing Face of Evil" the defiant got blown up. at the start of the battle everyone fires there weapons at same range. even the defiant. the most serious point here is that range in canon is messed up. so its totally balancing decisions to make.

for quoting i push the yellow quote button to get the whole post in quote tags, then i copy and paste that into notepad. then i can take bits out of the quote as needed, and paste more copies of the whole post and remove the leftovers each time. u can edit the content of a quote and it wont complain. like i can misquote u if i wanted to:

My name is kanye west.

Dreadnaught for example is most powerfull ship that ever was in Star Trek,super overpowered and yet it wasnt difficult to put it in game with balance.

is this the missile dread or the dom dread?

either way i bet a borg cube could assimilate them

posted on September 9th, 2010, 4:34 pm

The point of any Federation ship in any Star Trek from serials to movies was that they were ridiculously overpowered.

Just sayin'.



Dreadnaught for example is most powerfull ship that ever was in Star Trek,super overpowered and yet it wasnt difficult to put it in game with balance.

Clearly, you don't understand.  Of course, since the Feds are the good guys, they win at the end.  But this isn't about tropes at play, this is about the fact that the only reason the Breen didn't instantly win the entire war for the Dominion was the fact that some random Klingon engineer screwed with his settings.  If you want them to be like DS9, then you want them to kill everything, all the time, until some research renders them relatively normal.

Since no sane person would ever actually want the Breen to play like their DS9 counterparts, I'll assume that you were using some form of hyperbole to try and get your point across.

[Tyler]

posted on September 9th, 2010, 4:50 pm

Last edited by Tyler on September 9th, 2010, 4:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The Breen could never play as well as their DS9 counterparts, since the quadrents major powers have already adapted to the weapon. The Dampner in FO is about as much of its previous effectiveness it will ever regain, now that the alliances engineers learned about how it works.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 8:10 am

The Breen could never play as well as their DS9 counterparts, since the quadrents major powers have already adapted to the weapon. The Dampner in FO is about as much of its previous effectiveness it will ever regain, now that the alliances engineers learned about how it works.

Only Klingon ships have counter technolodgy aggainst that weapon.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 8:31 am

thats not true. they were tried before with the super special weapon, it was annoyingly op. it crippled everything. the special was just op in ds9. plus everyone adapted to it anyway.

ofcourse it can be done,I never said that I want Breen Battleship like it was there before yet you act like I said that.Only klingons have ship that can adapt aggaist this weapon.Good game developer cant implement this special weapon in FO without sacrificing the character of the weapon or making it OP.

norexan is a non canon name for the valdore type (notice i say type and not class) from nemesis. we never knew the name of the class

thats truth,but its still existing ship.I dont even know why I quote this, you writted it becose you was  assuming that I think that fans creating new ships is something bad witch is wrong.Both Breen Cruiser and Tavara for example are very profesional models.

scimitar was reman not romulan, also it was silly and stupid and i hate it.

why the hate 

its not really balanced if a late game ship can easily be killed by early/mid assimilators. 250 crew is far too low.

Norexan have 300,Breen Battleship have curently 425 so if we taken it down to 325 it would be much more realistic and will be good balance for its 10% higher speed.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 8:33 am

Only Klingon ships have counter technolodgy aggainst that weapon.

When the Romulan-Federation-Klingon alliance first fought against the Breen, only the outdated Klingon ships had technology to counter that weapon, but that didn't last for the whole war.  The Klingons held the line until the Federation engineers figured out how to counter it.

[dob]

posted on September 10th, 2010, 8:45 am

Last edited by dob on September 10th, 2010, 8:51 am, edited 1 time in total.

When the Romulan-Federation-Klingon alliance first fought against the Breen, only the outdated Klingon ships had technology to counter that weapon, but that didn't last for the whole war.  The Klingons held the line until the Federation engineers figured out how to counter it.

Lets set FO in pre dominion war era then,please...

cmon guys    I had birthday just TWO months ago

[dob]

posted on September 10th, 2010, 8:52 am

Last edited by dob on September 10th, 2010, 8:54 am, edited 1 time in total.

Clearly, you don't understand.  Of course, since the Feds are the good guys, they win at the end.  But this isn't about tropes at play, this is about the fact that the only reason the Breen didn't instantly win the entire war for the Dominion was the fact that some random Klingon engineer screwed with his settings.  If you want them to be like DS9, then you want them to kill everything, all the time, until some research renders them relatively normal.

Since no sane person would ever actually want the Breen to play like their DS9 counterparts, I'll assume that you were using some form of hyperbole to try and get your point across.

I know one strong reason why it should be like I want it,read the post above

posted on September 10th, 2010, 11:55 am

Here, have fun reading why the FO Universe is not like the ST Universe in all respects

An Introduction to Fleet Operations - The Hitchhiker's Guide to Fleet Operations

posted on September 10th, 2010, 12:22 pm

Only Klingon ships have counter technolodgy aggainst that weapon.

actually the klinks started with the easy fix. then the underground stole a weapon and starfleet figured out a way to make ALL alliances ships immune.

rewatch the last 10 eps of ds9, they were good.

Lets set FO in pre dominion war era then,please...

cmon guys    I had birthday just TWO months ago

you want the devs to change the whole game just because your birthday was 2 months ago.

even if it was your birthday was today they wont change their whole game just for 1 person.

if it works i may just ask: it was my birthday 2 months ago. make me a dev pls

posted on September 10th, 2010, 12:40 pm

And its my birthday next month so I want a ship naming after me!

Oh, wait, the Canaveral Class can have a ship called USS Loki

My wish came true!

Now I want a pony!

[dob]

posted on September 10th, 2010, 1:09 pm

Last edited by dob on September 10th, 2010, 1:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

author=Myles link=topic=8181.msg139690#msg139690 date=1284121367]
actually the klinks started with the easy fix. then the underground stole a weapon and starfleet figured out a way to make ALL alliances ships immune.

rewatch the last 10 eps of ds9, they were good.

you want the devs to change the whole game just because your birthday was 2 months ago.

even if it was your birthday was today they wont change their whole game just for 1 person.

if it works i may just ask: it was my birthday 2 months ago. make me a dev pls

this sucks,I tried to look like I know everything but you just out nerded my in every aspect  :-[

posted on September 10th, 2010, 4:44 pm

non-st-nerd vs st-nerd = beaten non-st-nerd

thats how it always goes here

posted on September 10th, 2010, 5:09 pm

lol all i did was watch the ds9 eps. nothing special. all my evidence comes straight from ds9.