Ship discussion

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:05 pm

dont think that the defiant is the mega ubah death bringer

Heretic!! 

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:06 pm

do sttack ship or attack cruiser would fit, right?

Attack ship is used by the Dominion Destroyer and Attack cruiser sounds like the name a Cruiser would have, rather than something a Battleship would use.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:07 pm

lets discuss just for the sake of it

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:09 pm

Attack ship, since it's more likely to attack than anything else.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:10 pm

Attack ship, since it's more likely to attack than anything else.

finally, thanks

[Tok`ra]

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 8:49 pm

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The Phalanx is Starfleet, not Federation 

[img width=600]http://www.iwar.org.uk/military/resources/aircraft-carriers/pics/enterprise-high.jpeg[/img]


USS Enterprise is U.S. Navy, not American 

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 9:02 pm

if u make your tags:

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then it will make the image easier to view.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 10:25 pm

The Canaveral is a Federation vessel. The Phalanx is a Starfleet-proper vessel. The Marines is a division of the U.S. armed forces, but it is not the U.S. armed forces, and it has a different combat role.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 10:29 pm

The Canaveral was a Federation vessel, Starfleet has its own version now. Your own guide mentions it.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 10:32 pm

Just to clarify, Optec is the one that classified the Canaveral this way.  It's supposed to be a non-Starfleet vessel not technically under Starfleet control.  For example, a Canaveral might be assigned to Risa, and Risa dictates what the vessel does and where it goes, not starfleet.  That way the planetary government has a dedicated ship for taking out pirates or other scum.

It's built from starfleet shipyards, so the whole thing is confusing to me.  This is how I understand it.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 10:35 pm

I think my previous suggestion was overlooked so i'll repeat it:

Change the Phalanx weapons to a more directed weapon. Multiple microphoton torpedo launchers -> weapons mostly directed at small vessels, but usable against buildings + strong shields would make the Phalanx more "Trek" and viable as a high end vessel.

At least it makes a better discussion than Starfleet vs. Federation.
I realize that the developers probably want to make the Phalanx some high tech vessel, but the large area of use IMO goes against the Federation/Starfleet ethics to prevent collateral damage.

On a sidenote, where did the idea for a magnan come from.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 10:49 pm

In-universe or Real life origin?

Just to clarify, Optec is the one that classified the Canaveral this way.  It's supposed to be a non-Starfleet vessel not technically under Starfleet control.  For example, a Canaveral might be assigned to Risa, and Risa dictates what the vessel does and where it goes, not starfleet.  That way the planetary government has a dedicated ship for taking out pirates or other scum.

It's built from starfleet shipyards, so the whole thing is confusing to me.  This is how I understand it.

It's built from Starfleet yards because they are building their own version of the ship, not the Federation one.

The Canaveral class was originally designed for the Federation and not for Starfleet. It was meant as a small well-rounded vessel, which would allow the member planets of the Federation which don't have yards of their own to build their own vessels and explore space or guard their trading vessels. During the Dominion war Starfleet refitted many Canaveral class vessels with long range phasers. With the Dominion War over, the Canaveral class became a common Starfleet vessel.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 11:00 pm

In-universe or Real life origin?

I read the FO story, but i want to know what it is based upon.

About my suggestion for the phalanx, any comments?

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 11:02 pm

Yup, I just count original designations, not what became of them - this will become more highlighted in later patches, as Risner is the specialist Starfleet officer, with access to all sorts of unique things, while Mayson relies on the might of the Federation, and doesn't necessarily get access to those top Starfleet ships . Avalon and Phalanx are just some of those specialist technologies. You might imagine getting access to Federation ships on certain maps as well.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 11:05 pm

Yup, I just count original designations, not what became of them - this will become more highlighted in later patches, as Risner is the specialist Starfleet officer, with access to all sorts of unique things, while Mayson relies on the might of the Federation, and doesn't necessarily get access to those top Starfleet ships . Avalon and Phalanx are just some of those specialist technologies. You might imagine getting access to Federation ships on certain maps as well.

TBH I'm not sure if i look forward to that.