The Defiant

posted on September 1st, 2006, 11:08 am

I wonder if Intrepids with tri-cobalt can handle them...

Because interpids' main weapon is a torpedo, they fight the best vs big ships with no miss chance
Plus if you mean an equal number of intrepids vs an equal number of defiants.... No way such a small ship would win against them

Sure you can choose the feds to fight the feds... but... Than it has nothing to do with ballence. Its just one race being too over powered.

No, feds are not unbalanced. Their defence values may be big, but their offence is pretty small...

posted on September 1st, 2006, 9:40 pm

True enough. To only to get an overwhelming firepower advantage as feds is to attack en masse, which they can do easily enough with their destroyer spam tactics.

posted on September 2nd, 2006, 2:33 am

I didnt mean that the feds where over powred. What I meant was that a race's only weakness cant be to its own race, for ballence a race needs weaknesses to the other races.

posted on September 2nd, 2006, 2:59 am

I think a good, well balanced Klingon fleet, or even a rommie fleet, can take on mass defiants for a reasonable cost.

posted on September 2nd, 2006, 10:51 am

Well if you outbuild the defiants 3:1 with any cruiser I think the cruisers should win. The problem is, thats not easy to do -.-

posted on September 2nd, 2006, 3:33 pm

Its not the numbers, its the balance of different ship types and special weapons.

posted on September 4th, 2006, 4:40 am

Its not the numbers, its the balance of different ship types and special weapons.

Actually when talking cruisers vs defiants a lot depends on the numbers. Of course a lot also depends on cruiser type and special weapon, but I would assume one to know which cruiser is good vs which ship

posted on September 4th, 2006, 11:05 pm

On the contrary, single-ship fleets almost always lose to similar sized well-balanced fleets.

posted on September 4th, 2006, 11:19 pm

thats not true at all trust me

Playing with Cube and barron i learnt that the hard way

posted on September 5th, 2006, 1:07 am

On the contrary, single-ship fleets almost always lose to similar sized well-balanced fleets.

I challenge u to find me a "balanced fleet" which would win against 16 breen battleships

posted on September 5th, 2006, 1:19 am

I got a good mix....15 Defiants and 3 Sovereigns?

posted on September 5th, 2006, 1:50 am

Breen Battleships would take the cake on that one. Defiants are uber, yes, but remember vs battleships their weapons do only 60% dam

Plus I meant equal number of ships, 16vs16

posted on September 5th, 2006, 12:05 pm

there is one fleet

As martok

6 Negvars 6 Luspets and 4 Vorcha's

that could work with all the specials

posted on September 5th, 2006, 12:32 pm

there is one fleet

As martok

6 Negvars 6 Luspets and 4 Vorcha's

that could work with all the specials

No way man, the only ones that would trouble me are the neghvars. But remember that breen battleship has long range and a cool special weapon, I would get a couple of hits b4 u even reached me.
Im not saying luspets and vochas suck, but they just arent a match for battleships :S

posted on September 5th, 2006, 12:35 pm

see the Vorcha's have those Poleron torps which counter the breen and the luspet has good range with its Cluster torps