GUNS!
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posted on January 19th, 2006, 7:44 pm
yes i know you have dislexia, but still doesn't count for not understanding someone post. you just need more time to understand it.
i make this VERY simple:
PERSON A wants to KILL Person B and SHOOTS HIM. PERSON B is DEAD
now in a world without guns
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a fishing line to choke the guy to death
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a pillow on the mouth when he sleeps
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and stabbs the PERSON B to death
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses arsenic
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses his kung fu
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a baseball bat
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and trows deadly cobra at his face
etc etc etc
see how easy it is to kill? Does that gun really matter then? NO. It is just a tool for the objective to kill that person like all the other objects
(actually this is quite fun now, it is like teaching an alien/ or a small child that doesn't know murders or death or anything negative in life, to teach them that bad things can happen)
any non lethal mthod is always close range or not as effectibve as a gun when in an armed hostile situation like a hostage situation. I already see police men running after a guy with pepperspray or a teaser
i make this VERY simple:
PERSON A wants to KILL Person B and SHOOTS HIM. PERSON B is DEAD
now in a world without guns
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a fishing line to choke the guy to death
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a pillow on the mouth when he sleeps
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and stabbs the PERSON B to death
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses arsenic
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses his kung fu
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and uses a baseball bat
or
PERSON A wants to KILL person B and trows deadly cobra at his face
etc etc etc
see how easy it is to kill? Does that gun really matter then? NO. It is just a tool for the objective to kill that person like all the other objects
(actually this is quite fun now, it is like teaching an alien/ or a small child that doesn't know murders or death or anything negative in life, to teach them that bad things can happen)
any non lethal mthod is always close range or not as effectibve as a gun when in an armed hostile situation like a hostage situation. I already see police men running after a guy with pepperspray or a teaser
posted on January 19th, 2006, 7:46 pm
Heh, roach is right.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:04 pm
ewm90 just ignores whatever we put up here. He does not even say we have a valid point. Its almost like he doesnt want to hear the opposing points to the topic being discussed.

This tragedy was caused without a single gun being involved. We should be more concerned about how to protect ourselves in all manners of life instead of how to disarm ourselves.
ON THE FOAM TOPIC:
We should transplant everyones brains with foam so that nobody can move. Everyone will just sit still and have no motor controls. Without being able to move arms and legs you cannot kill anyone.
There... problem solved... Oh wait, that wont work! We have to be able to move around to survive. Darn! Guess people will always be able to kill one another.

This tragedy was caused without a single gun being involved. We should be more concerned about how to protect ourselves in all manners of life instead of how to disarm ourselves.
ON THE FOAM TOPIC:
We should transplant everyones brains with foam so that nobody can move. Everyone will just sit still and have no motor controls. Without being able to move arms and legs you cannot kill anyone.
There... problem solved... Oh wait, that wont work! We have to be able to move around to survive. Darn! Guess people will always be able to kill one another.

posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:15 pm
very good point harry.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:24 pm
1. i rescanise that thare is a small buch of pepal how will get tham iligal i have taking thins in to acount. outlaowing guns will not stop tham all bus will make tham rare and hard to come by savinfgtuns of lifes ech year.
2. thots uther weponds dont end up makeing neerly as meny deths as a gun that makes it easy to kill.
2. thots uther weponds dont end up makeing neerly as meny deths as a gun that makes it easy to kill.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:32 pm
what makes you think it would be a small number? and plenty of people die of knife wounds, and BFT.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:35 pm
10. Machinery -- 350 deaths/per year
9. Medical & Surgical Complications and Misadventures -- 500 deaths/per year
8. Poisoning by gases -- 700 deaths/per year
7. Firearms -- 1,500 deaths/per year
6. Suffocation -- 3,300 deaths/per year
5. Fires and burns -- 3,700 deaths/per year
4. Drowning -- 4,000 deaths/per year
3. Poisoning by solids and liquids -- 8,600 deaths/per year
2. Falls -- 14,900 deaths/per year
yeah beats suffocation with plastics bags or poisons by simple chemicals like arsenic.
quote was from dirty harry somewhere at page 5
posted on January 19th, 2006, 9:07 pm
what makes you think guns would be hard to get if they were out lawed?
just look at proabition the government out lawed alcohol and it made the problem worse there were more places selling alcohol during proabition than there had been before.
and the government was not getting taxes or regulating them in any way because they were "underground". this is how most of the crimi families got started this sollution the drunkenness only made everything worse.
making guns illegal will only sper up peoples rebelios tendancies and creat a supple vaccum that would be filled by poeple that are not monitered by the government and are are more likely to have the full atomatic versons of the guns that are sold to day making the problem 10 times worse in the long run.
just look at proabition the government out lawed alcohol and it made the problem worse there were more places selling alcohol during proabition than there had been before.
and the government was not getting taxes or regulating them in any way because they were "underground". this is how most of the crimi families got started this sollution the drunkenness only made everything worse.
making guns illegal will only sper up peoples rebelios tendancies and creat a supple vaccum that would be filled by poeple that are not monitered by the government and are are more likely to have the full atomatic versons of the guns that are sold to day making the problem 10 times worse in the long run.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 10:10 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on January 19th, 2006, 10:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
most of thotes thing roach named are not inticnanal you are realy scraping the botum of the buckt roach. + i whood like to see whare you got that information i have a feeling it not accerit.
i dont have time for a full post i am late for a date.
i dont have time for a full post i am late for a date.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 10:35 pm
ewm, you've been scraping from the bottom for half the topic, and now you accuse Roach of doing it BECAUSE HE MADE A POINT YOU CANT COUNTER.
posted on January 19th, 2006, 11:05 pm
u've got a date?!?! lmao!
posted on January 19th, 2006, 11:28 pm
Frodo, what are you smoking, lol
posted on January 20th, 2006, 3:14 am
Last edited by ewm90 on January 20th, 2006, 3:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
Dirty Harry what duss this have to do with gun i thot thay used air planes
mg: ?
remiber no polatics in this tread

guns where ligal when this hapined thay did not help.
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[=!=]RedShirt, i am scraping the top of a braile in a ware house filled with barials of information why guns are bad. pepal get tired of me posting the resons thay dont looking at the faces of the ded.

remiber no polatics in this tread

guns where ligal when this hapined thay did not help.
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[=!=]RedShirt, i am scraping the top of a braile in a ware house filled with barials of information why guns are bad. pepal get tired of me posting the resons thay dont looking at the faces of the ded.
posted on January 20th, 2006, 2:37 pm
You still havn't came up with a satisfactory counter to Roach's post.
posted on January 20th, 2006, 3:41 pm
in reply to ewms post guns where illigal when the 7/7 bomibings happend in London and that did not help
i would like to use an old saying never out law somthing usefull then only the outlaws have it so if you out law a weapon only outlaws will have it...
i would like to use an old saying never out law somthing usefull then only the outlaws have it so if you out law a weapon only outlaws will have it...
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