GUNS!

posted on January 18th, 2006, 3:50 pm

but you CAN'T forsee in the future what a person is going to do. Why aren't you complaing that the drinking alcohol should be raised to 30 year old instead of 21 then? I don't hear you complaing about that even if alot of people die around that age of drunken related accidents.

I tell you WHY, because they are adults.

ewm, you either missed or willfully ignored the key point of his statement.

[[TD]Roach]

posted on January 18th, 2006, 4:09 pm

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EWM YOU ARE IMPOSSIBLE mg: mg: mg: mg:

but if some one is shot and killed he paiy with his life be cuss guns are legal that is not exstibal and i unresponsable to think the problom will just sove its self.

does that change alot? NOT AT ALL. if guns where illegal. then that person would get it illegally anyway or would killed that person by other means. BECAUSE THE GUN IS A TOOL for his actions. and the person has already made up his mind to kill that person.

but the person how is shot with a gun paiy with his life for doing nuthing rong.

yes, same with a natural disaters those people payed with their lives and they did nothing aswell. YOU CANNOT PROTECT EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN UNLESS YOU WANT A POLICE STATE. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN (you aren't grieving for every person that died of unnatrual causes do you? because you don't have enough hands to light the candles)

and not every body has the abillity to jug right from rong thay dont lern from thare mistakes

I NEVER SAID THEY HAVE TO LEARN. They just live with the concequences with that action. it is very simple. You make an action and you are responsible for that action you cannot evade that wether it is bad or good. learning is only that probability after the concequences. BEcause why would you want to learn that you can kill a person with a gun by killing a person. that doesn't make any sence.

you don't kill people to learn that you aren't alowed to kill people anymore. You kill people because you want the person dead THAT IS THAT PERSONS ACTION/REASON. The ACTION is the person kills some one. DOING SO, HE bare the concequences of the action he has taken. THAT IS CALLED RESPONSIBILITY. I AM NOT STATING THAT HE GOES WILLING TO THE POLICE STATION OR SOMETHING.

EXAMPLE:

IF a manager has to choose between making a new succesfull product or fusing with a well known company to save his own company he can do:

Choice 1: new product. it fails. HE is responsible and gets fired
choice 2: new product. works. HE is responsible and gets a raise and company saved
choice 3: fuses with company but due to fusing he is going to get fired
choice 4: fuses with company, company is saved and still has his job

it is a matter of chance. that person uses his own reasons and with that action ( A DECISION / CHOICE) he is taking responsiblity of what is happening later on.

People become what they are by making choices. that is what it is all about. you can't stop in an individual society a choice. how can i further explain it...

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! MY BRAIN HAS EXPLODED

ADult are simply put responsible for their own action .

THAT IS IT. READ MY PREVIOUS POST AGAIN!!!!

REDSHRT GETS IT IN THE FIRST TRY

posted on January 18th, 2006, 4:30 pm

i get ur drift. guns don't kill people. people do. bang bang td roach shot you down

[Anonymous]

posted on January 18th, 2006, 4:32 pm

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Roach,Jan 18 2006, 05:09 PM] EWM YOU ARE IMPOSSIBLE mg:  mg:  mg:  mg:

You just figured that out?

Hes set on his beliefs, and by god, nothing you say in gonna get him to back down.

posted on January 18th, 2006, 8:48 pm

well not to wards frodo, i just found that oh no we need to protect th epeople for right about everything a bit too much. no offence to any one

it was just slighty getting on my nerves but i am now

posted on January 18th, 2006, 9:53 pm

Don't feel so bad, I've seen people explode a lot more violently than that during political debates. ^_^

(Whoopie, my [font=Impact]900[/font]th post!)

[ewm90]

posted on January 18th, 2006, 11:15 pm

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RedShirt,Jan 18 2006, 05:32 PM] You just figured that out?

Hes set on his beliefs, and by god, nothing you say in gonna get him to back down.

well i am opinned to no evadents that guns can be used safly and have a peropuse no evadents has ben givin.

saftty had ben brot up that a gun mite be used for pertection. by as Frodo states below thare are meny uther less lethal alternatives + we have a grate polese forse that is a efective polise for ower needs. guns tend make us less save and not more stafe all most all studdys say.


pepal do kille pepal that is true but guns are desined to kill lots of pepal fast and easly we dont need to make it easy to kill.

[Frodo]

posted on January 18th, 2006, 11:22 pm

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how else are they gonna design guns?! to shoot out paper darts with bang written on em?! there are stun guns u kno, tasers too that knock out the person instead of killing them

[[TD]Roach]

posted on January 19th, 2006, 8:05 am

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The answer is FOAM

IF someone wants to kill a person any kind of weapon or item is a tool for someones death. if you remove all the guns the murderer will find another way to kill that person, using a simple fishing line to choke her, a simple knife or bashing a big tv over someones head

so if you everything out of foam then nothing can hurt you becuase it is as light as a feather.. but it is kinda hard to make your hands out of foam because even your hands kan kill a person by simply choking the person to death. so we have to find ways to banish hands from the world.

what ewm is trying to do is trying to remove any kind of dangerous things in life it is very hard to do that because it is an double edge sword how you use that. In this society being an adult means that you responsible for your won action and so be deal with it. you cannot ban everything to prorotect everyone. because quite litterally what you are doing then is becomming an overprotective mother that keeps her Adult son always in the house because things out there might be bad.

posted on January 19th, 2006, 3:31 pm

Also, even if all guns are removed from public sale, that wouldn't stop the criminals from aqiring them. They'd get it from the police or government. The only way to stop THAT is to disarm the police and the government. Would that stop the criminals then? No, they'd get guns from overseas, and we'd have NO WAY TO DEFEND OURSELVES. Say we manage to get all countries to disarm themselves. Would that stop the criminals? HECK NO. There'd still be millions of guns floating around out there in the wrong hands and WE WOULD BE DEFENCELESS.

posted on January 19th, 2006, 3:40 pm

The answer is FOAM

IF someone wants to kill a person any kind of weapon or item is a tool for someones death. if you remove all the guns the murderer will find another way to kill that person, using a simple fishing line to choke her, a simple knife or bashing a big tv over someones head

so if you everything out of foam then nothing can hurt you becuase it is as light as a feather.. but it is kinda hard to make your hands out of foam because even your hands kan kill a person by simply choking the person to death. so we have to find ways to banish hands from the world.

what ewm is trying to do is trying to remove any kind of dangerous things in life it is very hard to do that because it is an double edge sword how you use that. In this society being an adult means that you responsible for your won action and so be deal with it. you cannot ban everything to prorotect everyone. because quite litterally what you are doing then is becomming an overprotective mother that keeps her Adult son always in the house because things out there might be bad.

but pepal are less likey to merder pepal if thay have to use fisacal vilents or get neer thaer vimactom. guns make it easy to kill so more pepal kill. less guns less merders.


if guns aremoved from the gonral puplica the amount of guns will drop to some thing like 95%. most guns are bout be cuss it was easy to get tham and convent. most crimanls dont have acess to guns unless thay are easy to come bye.




all this was proved by the alont wepond band after the asolt wepond band was inmplamented gon crimes droped and thare wer fewer asolt wepond on the street.

posted on January 19th, 2006, 3:44 pm

less guns less merders.

My GOD, ewm, at le ast read the posts before you reply!!! Specicly, the one right above yours!!!

posted on January 19th, 2006, 4:17 pm

my reading is not at well as i whould like it to be some times i miss read things.

well the polise and army do a good job taking of thare weponds thare have ben a few miss haps but over all its exsepitbal.

the polise and amriy need thare guns thay have a need for tham.


its dicaolt to smugal guns over seas but thare whood be some of that not a hole lot that can be duns thare just be dilagint at stoping gun smuglaers.


if guns wher iligal we whood see much much much much fewer guns wich has ben provin by meny contrys in the EU how have much tite controle on guns than we do.

posted on January 19th, 2006, 4:34 pm

Ah yes, dislexia. My cousin has it, so I understand.

[Casper]

posted on January 19th, 2006, 7:42 pm

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i have it too. but i guess i got use to it.

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EWM, the main thing your not getting or just overlooking is that:

1. outlawing firearms would not stop people from getting them illegally, and then the law abiding folks will be S.O.L.

2. even if all firearms are completely destroyed (which will never happen), people will either make them at home, or use knives, stones, bows & arrows, axes, or a fist.

getting rid of weapons won't stop criminals, and doing so make the public defenseless

i'm just going to avoid this topic if ewm doesn't get it.