Some Things I Have Always Wanted To Have

posted on November 23rd, 2005, 8:07 pm

i think so, that's what it's designed for. or maybe not. what about sticking colonists into a war zone, FO put a stop to it, but it was in stock A2, so are you gonna say the federation wouldn't do something stupid like leaving the civies on a galaxy if they bring colonists into a warzone?

posted on November 23rd, 2005, 10:41 pm

Yeah in war the civilians are taken off of Galaxy class ships, and they're used as heavy command cruisers. I mean really, civilians on the ships going against the Dominion, yeah right. And without the civilians, it would be a bad idea to make the saucer retreat, it has big multi-fire phaser arrays :-P

posted on November 24th, 2005, 1:36 pm

nope but it is a good tactic when fighting the feds. stack you ships with civillians and say that if you destroy the ship they will destroy civillians on a large scale

posted on November 24th, 2005, 6:28 pm

nope but it is a good tactic when fighting the feds. stack you ships with civillians and say that if you destroy the ship they will destroy civillians on a large scale

Except the Borg don't care about killing civilians, the Klingons don't care, the Romulans certainly don't, same with the Cardassians.

posted on November 24th, 2005, 7:08 pm

do you reckon the dominion would?

no seriously, i think for the klingons it would depend on the individual, some may leave civilians alone, because of the lack of honour gained from such a kill.
Could you honestly see someone like Martok blowing up a civvie ship? i doubt it.

posted on November 24th, 2005, 7:20 pm

I'm a strong supporter of the Galactic Empire, we certianly don't hold back when fighting a ship filled with civilian rebel scum. They are terrorists, and they must be stopped at all costs! *slams fist down on the conference table*.

ahem...That is to say...Love Peace and Save the Whales!

posted on November 24th, 2005, 9:46 pm

klingons don't kill unarmed civies, it is dishonorable. and punishable by forfeit of rank & pay, and heavy prison terms.

The Klingon code of military conduct.

posted on November 24th, 2005, 9:54 pm

Then the Klingons are fools, I'd like to see a Neg'var go up against an Imperial Star Destroyer. muhahahaha If a ship is shooting at you, full of "civilians" or not, they need to be prepared for, as the klingon in SFC3 said "I will collapse your hull and burst you into the void!"

posted on November 24th, 2005, 10:03 pm

i said unarmed, if they're in a warship thier not unarmed.

posted on November 24th, 2005, 10:08 pm

Neg´Var would win the fight...you are talking about "L A S E R S " on the Imperial Star Destroyers with crap shields vs phasers and plasma torpedos and REAL shields on the Neg´Var

Borg Nanites would do their job aswell ^^

posted on November 24th, 2005, 10:19 pm

bah, You underestimate the star destroyer, ever think that the fighters in starwars are just plain strong? also not "Lasers" those are used to tear up the capital ship once it's sheilds are down, the use the turbolasers and auto turrets at close range to the other ships to knock 'um out besides, if all else fails, just send over the Sith. Force pwnage...The klingons have crappy sheilds anyway...didn't you play SFC3? lol then of course there is the size advantage, I mean the star destroyer is not only faster, but much larger, more space for weapons and warheads...plus tie bombers...hah, they'd own any klingon ship, please, they phaser banks are so limiting, they only have very specific arcs, and the fighters could obviously dodge torpedos...while the Imperial Star Destroyer itself couldn't take it, your right, the star destroyer isn't ment to operate on it's own, it depends on the fighters like the klingons depend on the sheilds, once any star trek ship sheild's are down, they are toast. The hulls suck...seriously...star trek ships depend on their sheilds so much they don't even have considerable armour compaired to an Imperial Star Destroyer, not to mention the fact a star destroyer could just tractor the ship in and capture it

Of course there is that one thing...the Eclipse class...lol. I want to see an A2 mod, Star wars vs. Star Trek, where you can build the death star and see how the United Federation of Planets deals without planets to unite...and federate

posted on November 25th, 2005, 4:34 am

I think that there is a star wars vs. star trek a2 mod and to destroy the death star the enterprise would fly up and beam a quantum torpedo into the power core

posted on November 25th, 2005, 4:54 pm

retard lol


Scimitar vs ISD = Scimitar rapes

u say fighters what about the 50 or so fighters on the scimitar and its cloaked and it can fire while cloaked

and i wont even talk about the thaeleron generator

as for any other ship neg'var would pwn the ISD just for the Ion torps and you say use "TURbo Lasers" still lasers

they cant even penertrate shields and the Neg'Var is one of the most powerful ships

then again you could just send a Cube lol give the borg Sith powers now that would be funky instantly every borg gains the force


or then again vs Feds the Feds would rape ISD vs hmmm SOV = Sov rapes how plain for the fact that its fast and it has heavy weaps and if push came to shuv throw the Runabouts shuttles and Captains yaucht vs the ISD none of them would lose shields to lasers and all are equipped with type 9 phasers so taking out shields would be easy and ISD's have tie fighters right which have no shields so one phaser shot would do and firing a Sovs phasers across all arcs would be instant rape to fighters and not forgetting the QUantum torps against the ISD or the TRi colbat devices they could just be holding

**** just throw 8472 at em

posted on November 25th, 2005, 7:58 pm

4 of 11, what are you talking about? turbo-lasers rape shields and hull armor. the isd has 80 turbo lasers in it's forward arc, and like 120 per broadside, plus a few in the aft section, and several standard blasters for point-defense, and 2 proton torpedo launchers. it would be a good match for a scimitar. and the standard fighter contingent of an isd is: 2 squadrons of light fighters 12 fighters per squadron (tie fighters, or interceptors), 2 squadrons of heavy fighters (tie advanced or tie defenders) & one squadron of attack fighters (tie bombers, gunboats, or missileboats), or 1 squadron of heavy fighters and 2 squadron's of attack fighters.

that's 60 fighter sized craft.

Care to rethink your position?

[LordsofKobol]

posted on November 25th, 2005, 8:16 pm

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For one thing, no one said anything about the scimitar, so I have no idea where that came up...Also, I don't appreciate you calling me a "retard" because you have an opposing opinion, I'm discussing this with you calmly, not flinging insults like a child.

Now, you say "lasers" as if it's something to be ashamed of...what the frack do you think a phaser is? **** it even sounds like laser...It means Phased Energy Refraction I'm pretty sure, look up how a laser works.

Imperial Star Destroyers are heavily armed, designed to bombard fortified bases from space, I think they could take down your precious little sheilds that the trek races depend on for dear life.

The borg could assimilate a sith lord, sure, the Force is spiritual, not technological you can't "adapt" to the Force, and you certianly can't assimilate it. Force lightning could easily destroy an entire army of borg, doesn't even need his lightsaber...

An Imperial Star Destroyer is also heavily fortified from fighter attacks, cloaked fighters or no, the Turbolasers could track the source of the fire, like any right minded person would do, you have sensors, use them! Any fighter attack on an Imperial Star Destroyer would be foolish and a swift battle for the Imperials.

Again...wrong...The phasers could kill A fighter, emphisis on the singular...You can't just start shooting phasers randomly and hoping to hit something, plus phasers have an annoying long recharge time, while the turbolasers can fire continuesly as long as the heat sinks are functional.

*Sigh* Proton Torpedo compliment far outlives the sovereign's quantum torpedo supply, look at the sizes agian...Much more storage space. Quantum torpedos probably do much more damage, I'll give you that, but the fact is, an Imperial Star Destroyer could launch about 10 at a time from the diffrent torpedo tubes located on the hull...3 quantums to 10 or more proton torpedos a launch...Hmm...Also, Tri-colbalt torpedos are illegal, Caretaker...watch voyager...so there is a 99.9% chance that the Sovereign wouldn't have them.

8472 would be an interesting fight, but then again, the Force prevails.

So before you start calling me names and "retard" I suggest you look up the meaning of Logical Fallacy, and talk about what you know.

EDIT: On the death star thing, that was Death Star I, Death Star II fixed the exhaust vents, also the Death Star has sheilds, so no beaming The Superlaser would turn any sovereign into dust...so lets not go there, the Death Star II was destroyed in orbit around Endor, but we are operating under the assuption that it wasn't destroyed.