Release!

posted on April 7th, 2007, 8:12 pm

I just c&p'ed it.  Blame memory alpha.  Heck, blame the DS9 tech manual.

Also, why exactly do you think that it couldn't possibly be that long?  We never saw it compared to anything in FC, and I don't recall anything like that in DS9 either.  Again, I could be wrong, but I don't believe so.

posted on April 7th, 2007, 9:23 pm

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7794/geminifleetshipcompariskf6.png

Here's a comparison chart.  Sabre somewhere near bottom on right.

Oh, and a schematics chart just for fun!

...wait, uh, how does the image insert thing work??

posted on April 7th, 2007, 11:53 pm

the info on saber i have says dimentions are:
Length : 190 m
Beam : 250 m
Height : 41 m
Decks : 11

for more info please visit the site i use [HERE]

posted on April 8th, 2007, 2:04 am

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7794/geminifleetshipcompariskf6.png

Here's a comparison chart.  Sabre somewhere near bottom on right.

Oh, and a schematics chart just for fun!

...wait, uh, how does the image insert thing work??

Where is that junk from?! 

The Sabre is only one deck tall, if you were to believe it's comparison to the Sovy...

posted on April 8th, 2007, 8:27 am

and since when is the promie smaller than an excelsior? that can't be right

posted on April 8th, 2007, 1:56 pm

RedShirt:  I don't see your problem, the sovy looks more than ten times as thick as the sabre!  And that thickness isn't just attributed to the deck itself, the engines are underneath.  So it looks perfectly realistic to me, even if the sovy has 29 decks!

Casper:  The promie is a small ship.  Remeber, it's full crew consists of only about 10 people.  Excelsior holds several hundred.

There is one concern I have however, I always thought the galaxy had a much wider saucer than the sovy, and I also thought the nebula and galaxy had identical saucers, so shouldn't the nebula be a bit bigger? 

posted on April 8th, 2007, 5:41 pm

Mort, don't you see that the Sabre is about as tall as the Sovy's bridge module? 

There's no way in heck that that's even remotely possible.  Either the Sovy is too big or the Sabre's too small.  Nothing more to it.

posted on April 8th, 2007, 8:45 pm

Saber
Length: 190 meters
Width: 193.19 meters
Height: 48.60 meters
Weight: 2,756,000 metric tons
Cargo capacity: 9,954 metric tons

Hull: Duranium-Tritanium composite with micro-fiber reinforced ablative armor over critical compartments.
Number of Decks: 10 Total, 9 Habitable.

Not one deck, ten decks!!!

Sovy
Length: 685 meters
Width: 224 meters
Height: 88 meters
Weight: 3,255,000 metric tons
Cargo capacity: 58,299 metric tons

Hull: Duranium-tritanium composite with micro-fiber reinforced ablative armor.
Number of Decks: 24 total, 22 habitable.

posted on April 8th, 2007, 9:30 pm

Not one deck, ten decks!!!

*note: emphasis added

So, you admit that the comparison chart is inaccurate?

posted on April 8th, 2007, 10:11 pm

Yeah.  I also found that the nebula should be much wider.

posted on April 9th, 2007, 12:09 am

Here is a much more accurate one from EAS.

posted on April 9th, 2007, 10:17 am

Casper:  The promie is a small ship.  Remeber, it's full crew consists of only about 10 people.  Excelsior holds several hundred.

hahaha, 10 people... you 'aving a larf? , and despite speculation the prommie is NOT all that small. it is in fact just short of the size of the Akira.

@red that definately seems more acurate.

posted on April 9th, 2007, 5:17 pm

Ex Astris Scientia is the place to go for reliable information.

[Casper]

posted on April 10th, 2007, 12:27 pm

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i still don't think the excelsior is that large. and the "excelsior II" in the chart is it a basic TNG era excelsior, the lakota subtype, or the enterprise B subtype? (don't think it's the basic tng one, that looks like it should be the excelsior I)

posted on April 11th, 2007, 10:07 am

the excelsior I, is the "USS Excelsior" version, albiet with system upgrades & whatnot. the Excelsior II is most likely the "Enterprise B" subtype, because the was only one lakota type ever made: hardly enough to call it a class.
besides it is probably easier to build an entirely new ship than upgrade the existing Excelsiors up to the "Lakota" standard.

And yes the excelsior is quite large.