For The Carnys

[T-Man]

posted on April 6th, 2005, 1:56 pm

Last edited by T-Man on April 6th, 2005, 1:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.

The Hutet could still be in it, but make it cost lots of credits to represent the fact the Union only has a handfull of them. The same maybe for the Keldon (costing only 1 credit or somthing), with only the Galor not needing credits (The galor in this case being a Light Battleship).

This would allow the Cardassians to still have Battleships, but at the same time look weak by relying on smaller warships for victory. To help balance them, you could allow the smaller Cardassian ships to build faster and cost less. The Cardassians would also have smaller ships specifically designed for tackling larger ships (The Norin from Dominion Wars might be a good ship for this, probably a Heavy Destroyer or Light Crusier).

Also, the Tonga in Dominion wars might be good to have becuase it was stated as being very cheap to build, and so would fit with the "weakened" look were trying to give the Cardassians.

posted on April 6th, 2005, 3:29 pm

manfai.wan.users.btopenworld.com

maby if the Hutet class was mad realy slow pepal in the game whood only bild tham for defints. that Hutet class has a s*** lode of wepon banks on it. and has a troop depolment bay that mite be cool if used some haw for a speshal wepinod.

[T-Man]

posted on April 6th, 2005, 5:27 pm

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I Agree. Perhaps it could have a seperate crew rating for elite soldiers which is used for specialist boarding actions. Also when an enemy tires to board the Hutet, they have to kill all the elite soldiers before they can get to the crew.

On the schematic, it saids it has an "advanced counter tactics control". Perhaps in FO this could house specialist sesnor equipment like a Tachyon detection grid, wide range sensors, and jamming tech.

Also in the schematic it has a ship support slip. In DW it states that this is for repairing other ships, so perhaps the Hutet could also function as a mobile repair bay for ships crusier sized and below so when you press "R" your ships line up at the Hutet rather than going all the way back to the shipyards, or perhaps a button that behaves like the tech assimilator (you click it, then select a ship. That ship then heads for the Hutet and docks for repairs).

posted on April 6th, 2005, 5:33 pm

I like the mobile repair bay for anything smaller than a galor. Great idea

posted on April 6th, 2005, 5:44 pm

or evin take that a bit ferther i have seen in the enpiers mod ships that bilt uther ships or wepinds.

so you cood have the Hutet class bild small ships or small remote misals
ans can repare ships good idea T-Man.

posted on April 6th, 2005, 5:49 pm

I started a new topic to discuss the Hutet here:

http://forum.fleetops.net/index.php?showtopic=1760&hl=

posted on April 7th, 2005, 2:40 am

I remember seeing on the Dominion Wars intro video that the Hutet has two Hidekis attached to it. Perhaps that might be a good idea. It would be unique in FO since it's only in the Cardassian race, and I think that it might be a good idea so that the Hutet would have a little more muscle in any fight.

posted on April 11th, 2005, 4:29 pm

I posted in coolhandab's Hutet thread that anything else concerning the Cardassians in general should be confined to this thread. I do wish to continue the off-topic conversation from that thread, but only if it's in THIS thread. Regarding that conversation, I must ask this question: why shouldn't the Cardassians be incorporated in FO in any later version of this mod? Just because they're weaker than other races doesn't mean diddly squat. They were major adversaries of the Federation for crying out loud! Even if many of the ships for such a race are non-canon, that makes little difference. I've never heard of the Rhienn class, for example, in any Star Trek series. What makes anything like a Hutet-class battleship not FO material? Y'all must understand that there are references to ships other than the Hideki, Galor, and Keldon-class ships in Star Trek and websites that I've come across. If that's not convincing enough, what is? I don't see any reason why the Cardassians should be part of the Dominion in FO. They broke away from them for crying out loud. Also, what's the point of the "feature request" section of the forum if the FO team simply makes decisions by themselves? I respect them totally for their hard work and dedication and authority, but this doesn't make logical sense if there's a "feature request" section and no suggestions will be accepted.

Charo VIZ

posted on April 12th, 2005, 1:50 am

That's true about the Cardies having broken away from the Dominion. It looks like the Breen are the only avatar for the Dominion right now, so hopefully the Cardies can stay independent or perhaps ally with the Romulans, etc.

posted on April 12th, 2005, 4:34 pm

Perhaps with an unknown race or smuggling stuff from other places.

posted on April 13th, 2005, 4:04 pm

Several folks and I were discussing about the Cardassians in general, and T-Man brought up a point concerning the Noxter invading the Cardassian Union. That brought up a good idea that comes to mind. I suggested that this particular discussion continue in this thread so that we don't go off topic in the Hutet thread. Based upon T-Man's point, I think that should be justifiable cause to include the Cardassians in some later version of FO. To answer the question on how the Cardassians would be able to combat the Noxter, I think that in the single-player missions, some Cardassian diplomat/leader (most likely Garak as I suggested for a possible avatar) would make a treaty with the Federation to rearm the Cardassian military. In doing such, the Hutet, the Kalen, and many other ships that are rarely heard of for the Cardassians would be able to be built. To use an analogy, it would be just like Armada I when the Borg came to assimilate the Alpha Quadrant. I think that having other avatars for the Cardassians would be nice so that the Cardassians might face a civil war case-scenario like in A1 with the Klingons.

[Anonymous]

posted on April 19th, 2005, 4:22 pm

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I have a list of websites that happen to have references to the Kalen-class Cardassian starship that I've mentioned about on this thread:

http://hem.bredband.net/locutus/ships_basic.html
http://www.cs.uu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/star-...hips/basic.html
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi/FirstofTwo/shiplist7.html
http://members.blackbox.net/walter.krivane...hivSchiffe.html

I've been unable to find pictures of this ship class on the internet. I will now start a thread for this class of ship as in what would folks want for this class of ship. I do know that it is cloak-capable, but that's all.

Here's the link to the Kalen thread:
http://forum.fleetops.net/index.php?showtopic=1781

[hypercube]

posted on April 20th, 2005, 12:27 am

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stop with the cardys please oh please

posted on April 20th, 2005, 12:34 am

Then post somewhere else, everyone else is interested.

posted on April 20th, 2005, 1:15 am

Thanks, USS Legacy.