For The Carnys

posted on May 24th, 2005, 9:54 pm

As I have mentioned many times Hutet is not canon, and it looks like sh*t, it would be better if the FO just made up another BIG-ARSE ship for the cardies, it would look nicer I think.
And even so in that dominion wars game that ship was a little far fetched, I mean to build such ships is not in cardies nature, or strategy

posted on May 24th, 2005, 11:52 pm

Hutet is ok with me, but since they weren't in the dominion war we have no idea how many they would have. My guess with the cardies mass production of every ship they have, I would put the notch around 10-20.

Therefore credits is fine with them, but not the Keldons, since there were a buttload of them.

posted on May 25th, 2005, 8:18 am

And even so in that dominion wars game that ship was a little far fetched, I mean to build such ships is not in cardies nature, or strategy

True, but consider that the Cardassians had joined the Dominion. I've never seen so many Cardassian ships mobilised as i did in "Sacrifice of Angels" (The retaking of DS9, i think it was that episode). Taking into account the way the Dominion operates, i would expect the Cardassians to have adapted their strategies to fit their new allies.

We saw very little of the Cardassian war machine before DW, so we cannot really speculate on how Cardassian fleets operate. We should also consider that, by the design outlined in DW, the Hutet is a defensive ship (it guards systems) rather than offensive, and that is why it seems very far-fetched compared to what we've seen of Cardassian fleets. In fact, the Hutet is similar in many ways to the Dominion Battleship. Hideki, Galor, Hutet, small medium big, just like the Jem'Hadar.

My final question is, whats wrong with non-canon? Half of FO's ships are non-canon. FO is set after the end of Voyager and DS9, thus the FO team has the freedom to add what they wish, canon does not apply as much. If we applied canon-only to the game, nothing would be new, therefore it would be boring, therefore no one would play it. Don't get me wrong, i agree that following canon is vital for fan games, but when they are set after the canon storyline ended, the concept of canon becomes a little less influencial, and the creator can add more of their own ideas to the world.

posted on May 25th, 2005, 5:30 pm

A problem with getting non canon games in is that, for the federation, there are already plenty of canon designs and no new ones are needed. Another is this takes place just a few years after the Dominion war, there wouldn't be time to make many new designs.

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posted on May 25th, 2005, 11:03 pm

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yep, feds have plenty of designs, but i still think that akira should have quantum torps

posted on May 25th, 2005, 11:21 pm

Yeah Akira with Quantums, un-canon much.

posted on May 26th, 2005, 5:23 am

Maybe they do use new strategy now BUT I still stick to:

As I have mentioned many times Hutet is not canon, and it looks like sh*t, it would be better if the FO just made up another BIG-ARSE ship for the cardies, it would look nicer I think.

posted on May 28th, 2005, 6:48 am

So what. It's no different from any other Trek game that takes place either after Voyager or DS9. From what I've heard, there are so many reference books and sources for Trek that are considered "canon" that anything, even the Hutet, is legitimate. Ask Chancellor Korang. He's the person that mentioned about references for Trek. Maybe it would be nice to create a new ship for the Cardassians that would be comparable to the Hutet, but the idea for the Hutet woudl still be nice considering the circumstances.

posted on May 28th, 2005, 8:04 am

i don't like the Hutet one bit and have toi agree with eufnoc. The ship isn't cardy style. As the cardies are lacking in resources, a huge big ass ship like that would be a big drainage on resources. and the repairing bay is very unlikely

posted on May 28th, 2005, 6:38 pm

I simply dont like neither the idea of such a ship, nor the design of the Hutet, so IF they do put it in I just hope they make a different NICER design

[Anonymous]

posted on May 29th, 2005, 2:29 am

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To be fair, people OTHER than myself indicated interest in the Hutet, so I wouldn't be so "negative nancy" on this issue.

To make things more positive on this topic, I'd like some folks to discuss about the ship designs that are found in the links that I provided a while back.

But I do have a proposition: just like the revision of the Canaveral Class, MAYBE we can show interest for a revised look for the Hutet.

[[TD]Roach]

posted on May 29th, 2005, 8:08 am

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uhmm anyway why am i butting into this topic? there ARENT'T going to be any cardies.

you can all just believe in your new found mantra of cardies are a playable race in FO.and if you say it long enough you might believe it but it WON'T happen

posted on May 29th, 2005, 5:46 pm

Poor roach, he doesn't know the truth about whats going on.

posted on May 30th, 2005, 1:09 am

Keep the dream alive folks! Judging by how long V3 is dragging out V5 may be a decade away, but when it comes we should know EXACTLY how the Cardassians will be involved.

posted on May 31st, 2005, 2:16 am

Well said, coolhandab. That's why we have this thread to begin with, and Optec himself stated that the team would never forget about the Cardassians, so IN YOUR FACE, NEGATIVE NANCIES!!!