StA2_Classic Mod: Different Questions & Modeling Mods After
posted on February 23rd, 2013, 7:10 pm
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posted on February 23rd, 2013, 10:01 pm
Je_mezu24 wrote:@Terra_Inc: That really isn't important right now, and he's already answered that in another thread anyways.
Ah, I was not aware of that. Don't mind me, just trying to help.
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posted on February 25th, 2013, 8:21 pm
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posted on February 27th, 2013, 6:30 am
posted on February 27th, 2013, 9:15 am
Sorry, this is going to be long, have a few things to explain, in no way am I trying to be disrespectful, just think I need to clear up some misconceptions. 
@rifraf: I have been nice and patient, I've posted my questions and problems weeks ago with no reply, I've checked daily to find out and find nothing, in fact I've checked every post on these forms, and I've noticed threads new and old getting posts and replies daily well my questions and kindly asking for help really seems to be ignored or falling on deaf ears.
Anyone besides me would actually be frustrated if they too could tell they were being ignored when asking for help. Now honestly, if you or anyone asked for help or needed some questions answered and you posted them weeks ago and got no answer, how would you feel? How would you feel if you've noticed other people's questions were being answered and yours weren't? I'm just stating what I have been observing, not trying to or wanting to be rude or disrespectful.
Like I've said, I've waited weeks since the first day I started this tread back on 2/11/2013, that was just over two weeks ago. Really all I've gotten is complaints about long posts with questions, people saying my questions are too lengthy. When it comes to asking questions, I've always been taught since elementary (grade) school that its best to be precise on what your asking and to be descriptive so not to cause confusion; so that's exactly what I've been attempting to do.
That crash on page three wasn't a crash that you're referring to, it was that the main FleetOps Executable file wasn't launching the game and it wasn't even connected to the extra coding, coding that in fact is also in the STA2_Classic Mod's sprites.spr file because the mod adds two files to work Inconjunction with FleetOps so they were in fact needed and not the problem. I already solved that problem and it was a result of the third mod at the time that I have removed, it was a Star Wars - StarGate mod that was modeled after the stock Star Wars Fleet Command mod at A2Files, I have removed it and the FleetOps executable is launching again, that suggestion on removing that mod came from you in fact and I thought I thanked you already for that, because that means one problem/question has been answered/solved. Furthermore, you've assumed that my STA2_Generational Mod worked before adding that coding, but it didn't, it crashed the moment it was selected in the Mods Directory/Mod Settings/Options in the game after launching FleetOps, adding that coding (and testing it after removing the third mod) got me into the main screen for my mod for selecting either "Single Player (the campaigns)", "Instant Action", or "Multiplayer " (which I don't even know works online as a FleetOps mod through the Mods Directory). When the crash occurred the first time for the STA2_Generational Mod, it was when trying to launch the first Federation Campaign Mission ("Invasion"), that's when the crash occurred. Thought it was related to the missions so I launched the game again and tried "Instant Action" and it crashed the moment I clicked that button. Process of elimination is still out on that crash, but there are Federation ships that use the Max Buildable Number coding (see part underneath this one), and that goes for some ships to every race in the game as well.
The coding that I mentioned about putting into the files possibly is the answer to fixing a problem or might not, but it surely won't cause a problem because the coding it replaces is only in the Patch Project 1.2.5 Patch that Dominus_Noctis has already said will not work in FleetOps since it has been removed, in my opinion right none it shouldn't be causing any problems since its only on a select number of ships and stations, of course I could be wrong about that. So the coding that I am talking about putting in is essential to getting a mod to work inside FleetOps that uses the Mods Directory, it isn't a waste of time, in fact though one of my first questions involved trying to find out what that unique coding is that replaces the Patch Project 1.2.5 Patch's Max Buildable # (maxBuildableNumber) coding. All Dominus_Noctis said about that coding was this:
(Here is what I mean by labeled coding:
See how there is texted commented out with "//"? That tells what the coding underneath does. It may make the files size smaller not including it, but it makes it extremely easier for those that are modding the game that don't know what every little piece of coding does, like I don't know what ever piece of FleetOps coding does; hence the reason why I won't mod FleetOps ever and want to stick with the simple ODF files from stock Armada II and the STA2_Classic Mod. After all, everyone has a level of doing something they are comfortable at and confident in their abilities.)
Lastly, Note: Even though I deleted all the STA2_Classic Mods ODF files, the AI files are not effected. This is because they are still the stock ODF files and they still correspond to the original ODF files in the game because my ODF files are still the same as stock, nothing in them has been renamed or replaced in that manner. The stock ODF files are only edited within for weapons, health. The AI plays just fine in the stock (non-FleetOps version) of my STA2_Generational Mod.
The only thing I've been doing when it comes to modding for both the FleetOps version and non-FleetOps version of my mod is creating the AI files, and they are just copied versions of the stock AI files and will be replaced after they are done for both mods. Currently, I'm working on the Borg "Extended" AI and when it's complete I'll be posting them in a .zip file in my AI thread for advice on them and to see if I did them correctly. Nothing new or modded is in either version of my mod since the mod hasn't been working in FleetOps.
@rifraf: I have been nice and patient, I've posted my questions and problems weeks ago with no reply, I've checked daily to find out and find nothing, in fact I've checked every post on these forms, and I've noticed threads new and old getting posts and replies daily well my questions and kindly asking for help really seems to be ignored or falling on deaf ears.
Anyone besides me would actually be frustrated if they too could tell they were being ignored when asking for help. Now honestly, if you or anyone asked for help or needed some questions answered and you posted them weeks ago and got no answer, how would you feel? How would you feel if you've noticed other people's questions were being answered and yours weren't? I'm just stating what I have been observing, not trying to or wanting to be rude or disrespectful.
Like I've said, I've waited weeks since the first day I started this tread back on 2/11/2013, that was just over two weeks ago. Really all I've gotten is complaints about long posts with questions, people saying my questions are too lengthy. When it comes to asking questions, I've always been taught since elementary (grade) school that its best to be precise on what your asking and to be descriptive so not to cause confusion; so that's exactly what I've been attempting to do.
That crash on page three wasn't a crash that you're referring to, it was that the main FleetOps Executable file wasn't launching the game and it wasn't even connected to the extra coding, coding that in fact is also in the STA2_Classic Mod's sprites.spr file because the mod adds two files to work Inconjunction with FleetOps so they were in fact needed and not the problem. I already solved that problem and it was a result of the third mod at the time that I have removed, it was a Star Wars - StarGate mod that was modeled after the stock Star Wars Fleet Command mod at A2Files, I have removed it and the FleetOps executable is launching again, that suggestion on removing that mod came from you in fact and I thought I thanked you already for that, because that means one problem/question has been answered/solved. Furthermore, you've assumed that my STA2_Generational Mod worked before adding that coding, but it didn't, it crashed the moment it was selected in the Mods Directory/Mod Settings/Options in the game after launching FleetOps, adding that coding (and testing it after removing the third mod) got me into the main screen for my mod for selecting either "Single Player (the campaigns)", "Instant Action", or "Multiplayer " (which I don't even know works online as a FleetOps mod through the Mods Directory). When the crash occurred the first time for the STA2_Generational Mod, it was when trying to launch the first Federation Campaign Mission ("Invasion"), that's when the crash occurred. Thought it was related to the missions so I launched the game again and tried "Instant Action" and it crashed the moment I clicked that button. Process of elimination is still out on that crash, but there are Federation ships that use the Max Buildable Number coding (see part underneath this one), and that goes for some ships to every race in the game as well.
The coding that I mentioned about putting into the files possibly is the answer to fixing a problem or might not, but it surely won't cause a problem because the coding it replaces is only in the Patch Project 1.2.5 Patch that Dominus_Noctis has already said will not work in FleetOps since it has been removed, in my opinion right none it shouldn't be causing any problems since its only on a select number of ships and stations, of course I could be wrong about that. So the coding that I am talking about putting in is essential to getting a mod to work inside FleetOps that uses the Mods Directory, it isn't a waste of time, in fact though one of my first questions involved trying to find out what that unique coding is that replaces the Patch Project 1.2.5 Patch's Max Buildable # (maxBuildableNumber) coding. All Dominus_Noctis said about that coding was this:
, he didn't say what coding that was or how it worked or even point to a section in the guide with it. Pretty much told me to check the ODFs in FleetOps for the coding and since they don't labke them like the stock game (and my ODF files do) I haven't easily found it."3. Replaced with fleet cap files, the old commands are removed"
(Here is what I mean by labeled coding:
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//Number of crew required to build ship & Starting crew
crewCost = 160
//Dilithium Cost to build
dilithiumCost = 217
//Metal Cost to build
metalCost = 450
See how there is texted commented out with "//"? That tells what the coding underneath does. It may make the files size smaller not including it, but it makes it extremely easier for those that are modding the game that don't know what every little piece of coding does, like I don't know what ever piece of FleetOps coding does; hence the reason why I won't mod FleetOps ever and want to stick with the simple ODF files from stock Armada II and the STA2_Classic Mod. After all, everyone has a level of doing something they are comfortable at and confident in their abilities.)
Lastly, Note: Even though I deleted all the STA2_Classic Mods ODF files, the AI files are not effected. This is because they are still the stock ODF files and they still correspond to the original ODF files in the game because my ODF files are still the same as stock, nothing in them has been renamed or replaced in that manner. The stock ODF files are only edited within for weapons, health. The AI plays just fine in the stock (non-FleetOps version) of my STA2_Generational Mod.
The only thing I've been doing when it comes to modding for both the FleetOps version and non-FleetOps version of my mod is creating the AI files, and they are just copied versions of the stock AI files and will be replaced after they are done for both mods. Currently, I'm working on the Borg "Extended" AI and when it's complete I'll be posting them in a .zip file in my AI thread for advice on them and to see if I did them correctly. Nothing new or modded is in either version of my mod since the mod hasn't been working in FleetOps.
posted on February 27th, 2013, 4:34 pm
posted on February 27th, 2013, 6:27 pm
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- This is the fente.odf file from my STA2_Generational Mod saved as a text file since ODF files are excepted. There are some extra weapons (all files are already in the game), alittle extra coding from the new physics files, (from the STA2 Upgrade Project Vanilla Ultimate 2.0.0), a new sounds set for Captain Picard, and some coding found in other mods for stock Armada II (tested those codes on a ship in STA2_Classic with no problems).
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- fente (from STA2_Classic).txt
- This is the fente.odf file from the STA2_Classic Mod saved as a text file since ODF files are excepted.
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- fente (from Stock Armada II).txt
- This is the fente.odf file from Stock Armada II saved as a text file since ODF files are excepted.
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