StA2_Classic Mod: Different Questions & Modeling Mods After

posted on March 15th, 2013, 10:47 pm

@086gf: Well I do have two versions of my mod, and both will if possible have the FleetOps weapons that I like if its plausible for a. stock mod if its the same coding (as in weapon classlabels).

Because of my other questions not being answered I can't get my FleetOps version of my mod to run, and using the STA2_Classic Mod just results in a crash, it won't work with a Parent Mod it needs to be standalone, yet I'm still not getting majorly needed answers, not even from any of the Devs who've made the engine (adapted it) and all thus extra coding, yet I see many if them replying to other threads, and all the while I'm running out of ideas on what to try that might just get it to work.

I'm really starting to see why many mod ideas get started, even mentioned in the forums and then eventually die out. It's simple really, I've come up with a simple template for such a process:
1. Someone needs help
2. Posts questions, bug reports or their problem they are having.
3. Wait for answers.
4. No answers yet, wait some more.
5. Work on something else that won't break the mod further, ODF edits, AI, etc (like I am at the moment)
6. Wait for answers, and brainstorm/ask more questions.
7. Still nothing happens, start losing interest in modding.
8. Continue losing interest in the mod and modding in general
9. Hope to God for answers to posted questions and or bug reports.... No answers.
10. Give up, call it quits, the mod dies.
11. Someone finally shows interest.... (Or possibly not, mod stays dead)

Looks like I can keep working on the stock version but the FleetOps version has so much extra unique features only possible with FleetOps.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 12:30 am

Posts like these really dont help. You have to remember that most people here ARNT modders, were here because we like the game. The modders and the devs are working on their own projects and dont have all day to go over everything all the time. You need to understand these people have lives outside of this forum. Do you think everyone here got told how to do these things, how to fix bugs and make everything run smooth? People that have time and know what you need are usually willing to help if you dont piss them off, but you want everything now, now, now. It takes time and effort and not everyone has the free time to help you. So you bitching about not getting help is counterproductive, just graciously accept any help given and work off that. Sometimes you just have to figure it out on your own, thats life.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 12:57 am

@Equinox1701e: I don't want everything now now now now, I have been waiting for over 4 weeks now for answers to my questions me inquiries without one helpful reply. Be patient? I've been more than extremely patient and UBS been trying to solve such problems in my own and opinion am getting really disappointed that nothing works, it doesn't take much time to answer one question especially since I have taken time out if my busy days to answer other people here and to offer my help and advice to those that I can help.

Like I've said I've been waiting weeks for help, I've even taken time to do other things that are real life related and apply to youth ministry. Plus I have attempted to figure it out on my own with crash after crash, I wouldn't be posting questions and bug reports if I knew how to read them (they should be easier to understand if they wanted everyone to understand them on their own, their isn't even a section in the guide dedicated to bug reports).

Your telling me to except any help graciously given, but that is just part if the problem, I AM NOT RECEIVING ANY HElP, just look at the number if posts in between my posts, oh wait, there isn't any because I'm the only one posting and asking questions. So the God's Honest Truth here is I'm trying to solve and find answers for my questions, just without a small bit of help and advice makes it extremely hard.

I really hate being accused of not working to solve these problems, or pissing people off or bitchy because if you'd put yourselves in m shoes for example you'd then understand how I am feeling about all if this and how it feels to not have one answer.

So I ask you Equinox1701e:
"How do you just graciously accept any help given and work off that when none is given???"

I can answer that easily: "You can't because its impossible!"
Thus I wouldn't be posting and asking questions if it were possible...

posted on March 16th, 2013, 1:11 am

Your pissy because no one is helping you. Again MOST people here dont know HOW to help you. If they did they would probably try to help you. But not everyone knows what your asking, and just because you have the time to help people doesnt mean others have the time. The main people (devs) that could most likely help arnt even on here that often, they are working on the game. And the couple devs that you see posting arnt neccessarily modders. And you do tend to put up massive walls of texts at times, which can be a bit much for people to want to read through. And your right, you may not get any help, again thats life. You take what help you can and run with it, if its frustrating (which im sure it is) you either have to deal with it or shelve it till your ready to try again. Even simple questions that you think should be easy to answer, no matter how long it takes to answer, thats someone elses free time your asking for, you have no right to be pissed off at anyone. If I pose a question online, I dont EXPECT people are going to flock to help me out, if they do, they do, if not oh well and move on to try to figure it out some other way. All im saying is bitching doesnt help your cause, do you honestly think your prior post would help your cause? If anything the opposite will happen. Just be courtious and polite, if no one is willing to help then theres not much you can do to change that.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 1:57 am

Actually equinox1701e, I have seen just about all of the Devs in the forums at one time or another, in fact I've been checking the Currently Online section of the forums at different times and have found different Devs and other users online at different times. Seeing that suggests that in my opinion they are choosing to not even check if anyone might need their help, or they are choosing to ignore myself and others that I've seen being ignored as well.

Plus when I asked about other mods and wondering about their status, those questions were even ignored and I've even spotted some of their creatures online. Those questions could have used a simple one - three (maybe 10 words) for a simple reply but they weren't answered either.

I don't put up to much long walls of text, with no answers to prior questions I add more and more questions because more ideas/questions come to mind. Questions that wouldn't have to been asked if others were answered. Plus I've numbered every one of my questions and even a child would know to answers the numbered questions and that just posting the question number and an answer is simplistic enough to answer them, never have I said that someone has to answer every single question, in fact I did say this because I know that not everyone knows every answer to my questions, yet even my simplest questions for those that know FleetOps pretty well (unlike myself) has also been ignored:

At the request of rifraf, I am re-asking all of the questions that I still need answered. Hopefully this will make getting answers easier, don't feel you have to answer all of them, just take those you can answer and put the questions' # before your answer.

Honestly I've made posting my questions very simplistic to answer, in fact if someone else had used that set up and asked questions in that firm I would have answered them in the same simplistic order/form.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 5:17 am

Again, if people arnt willing to or cant help you by answering your questions, or are just ignoring you as you suggest, whats the point of making posts such as the one you made? All your doing is insuring the people that could possibly give you help wont when you berate everyone who isnt helping. If your convinced no one is going to help you after weeks of waiting, why are you here griefing about it? You cant make people answer your questions, you did your part, you posed your questions and your waiting for replies. Thats all you can do, unless you seriously think making posts lamenting the lack of helpful people is going to somehow make people come and answer your questions. All your doing at this point is trolling.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 5:40 am

I'm not trolling, its my thread I started it, thus I have a right to post to it.

And furthermore the saying is: "Do unto others as you want done unto you." So in all due respects, people want people to be polite and not get aggravated? The simple thing to do is to treat others the way they want to be treated. Other people (not just me) are going to want to have answers to their questions when they post them and the same goes with bug reports.

They too deserve the same respect and treatment, and thus deserve answers. I say this as a Christian, you treat others as you want to be treated, that should apply to replying to others and answering their questions here on the forums.

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I'm not convinced no one is going to answer my questions, eventually someone is going to. Like I've previously said if I think it will help, I'll be making a thread for each one of my questions I really need answered.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 6:26 am

So because you started a thread on the forum you cant possibly troll? And do you actually read what you post?

people want people to be polite and not get aggravated? The simple thing to do is to treat others the way they want to be treated. Other people (not just me) are going to want to have answers to their questions when they post them and the same goes with bug reports.

They too deserve the same respect and treatment, and thus deserve answers. I say this as a Christian, you treat others as you want to be treated, that should apply to replying to others and answering their questions here on the forums.

So basically your saying your going to be a pissy untill someone comes and answers your questions? And what have you done to earn the respect of anyone? What have you done that makes you so special that you can just demand that people answer your questions? No one here owes you anything, your not entitled to anything, and if they want to help they will, and if your going to continue to post griefing about not getting help, what reason are you giving people to help you! You sit there on your high horse like your a saint, "you treat others as you want to be treated", your words yet your actions dont follow that sentiment. You sit here berating the community, yet they should help you...

"its my thread I started it, thus I have a right to post to it" Are you 12 years old? Yes you started it, no one said you couldnt post in it, does that mean you can post what you want? No theres certain etiquette on a forum, and for asking for help in general. One of those unwritten rules (and this goes for in real life too): DONT AGITATE PEOPLE WHO YOU WANT HELP FROM! And if you so sure people are going to help you, why are you all pissy in the first place? Because they arnt helping fast enough? Ive read several posts now where you have gotten into it with other forum members, at this point i can honestly say youre the most abrasive active member on regularly (definately not all time though). Its not because the community is trying to be mean to you, but your approach leaves some room for improvement, and unfotunately you seem unwilling to consider that maybe your etiquette needs some work. And no matter what anyone says you seem to think your right all the time in you stance. I just hope for your sake your just very young and naive, or arnt as standoffish as you are here in real life, otherwise your going to have a long road ahead.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 8:19 am

@Equinox1701e: I do read everything I post, its in,y logical to do so.

I can't troll on my own thread when with all due respect, I keep only asking questions, questions that actually in one way or another coincide with many of my questions that haven't been answered yet and if they were just answered, I wouldn't be coming up with other questions that coincide with them because many of the extra questions in one way or another are reworded forms of my other questions.

Also I can't be responsible for the built in autocorrect/spelling that my iPad uses, so if something doesn't sound right, it isn't my fault, its auto correct and reading what is written seems to always match exactly what I'm trying to say or am thinking.

I'm not being pissy or anything else. As I've said, I've waited weeks for answers, since the first day I e started this thread actually, many of my questions are re-written and reworded questions from the first posting that still haven't been answered. If you want to say m being pissy or aggravated lets just say you haven't seen pissy or aggravated, on the contrary I'm actually controlling myself in almost every post I write/submit. Yet I'm holding down furry that's about as strong as the eruption that destroyed Mount Saint Helen's if you must know.

Let's see here respect = respect. (Like I said/0: "Do unto others that you want done unto you"). People want to be respect like I do? Well show you deserve that respect, leaving people hanging when they have questions and not answering them doesn't help anyone get respect. You have to give a little to get a little, in other words "a little answers would easily get better treatment/tone and rid if a lot of this aggravation I'm feeling. More if the treatment I've been getting doesn't show any good faith that warrants respect or a better tone. I've come here looking for help and to learn about modding, I wouldn't be asking questions and posting bug reports if I knew everything or why something is happening or could actually easily find what I've been looking for in FleetOps ODF files or the Guide for examples. Everyone of my posts has a legitimate reason or I wouldn't be posting it in this thread or the other ones that I've started (they are all a plea for help, advice and answers to questions to things that I'm finding to be confusing or the guide makes confusing or a FleetOps ODF makes impossible to understand). I'm sorry if I'm not like everyone here who seems to understand everything about FleetOps and thinks/acts like everyone else should as well.

It's actually pretty hard to enjoy the game with this kind of treatment, heck it's the reason why I've chosen not to play online, because how I'm being treated here on the forums and not getting answers makes me feel like you'll all take advantage of me being new to playing FleetOps if I went online. From the replay videos I've watched I feel I'll be targeted in game right away for being new and not used to the FleetOps firm of A2. After all, there are times u feel unwelcome here in the forums. I actually feel like I'm supposed to know something that I seems everyone else knows when it comes to modding that I don't that I'm not worthy enough to have any help offered or any questions answered. At least, that's how it feels.

I'm not berating the community. If you check out my first post in every thread that I've started and you'll notice that there aren't really much replies, or not many answers or the same thing is said: "Go check the Guide", "Go check some FleetOps ODF files", "Go play FleetOps to find out how things work" but no helpful answers (ok can't fully say that, SquireJames has been helpful but truthfully, he seems to be the only one, his comparison charts have actually been a life saver even though more questions have been asked around them.)

To the contrary of all that though, I have played FleetOps, I have used the Guide and I have checked FleetOps ODF files and yet I'm still heavily confused, if I wasn't I wouldn't be asking all of the questions that I am asking, on top of that I wouldn't be posting as many bug reports as I am if I was understanding what I'm reading in the Guide and in FleetOps ODF files and experiencing in FleetOps gameplay itself. After all, there is a method to what I post and how I ask it.

I'm the one whose feeling majorly agitated, after all, I posted my first sets of questions in this thread on February 11, 2013, it is now March 16, 2013. More than a month ago and I really haven't gotten one helpful answer to even my first set of questions, I've asked about FleetCaps and Warp-Ins for example in my very first posts in this thread back in February and still my questions/inquiries about both of those haven't been answered and that's just two out if many of the questions I have. Agitated, from not getting answers since February 11, 2013, well I think I have a right to be when I've been looking for information on the exact same thing for over a month now. So what, am I supposed to wait two months, six months, a year or two before I get any answers? See why I'm agitated? I'm really getting tired of asking the same questions all the time and still not finding the information I'm looking for in the Guide or any FleetOps ODF file well even waiting for a hint of an answer to any of my questions.

If anyone wants my etiquette to improve all I can say is I haven't seen any evidence that it should be warranted. You give alittle to get alittle, I've given the questions and bug reports I'm looking for help with or need answered, and I've been waiting over a month for anyone here to show that they deserve better treatment from me especially when I 100% don't feel like I'm getting the respect I deserve as well (respect = respect).. I've posted my questions nicely, I've done the work to find the answers as well and instead have been left with more questions.

All I can say is: "You want an improvement in my etiquette? Show me that you actually deserve it because I've always been willing to be responsible and polite but I've always been taught that its a two way street (meaning it takes two or more) and for others to show they deserve it as well."

And lastly, I am 24 years old and going on 25, I work with kids and am in the Youth Ministry field. I am not young or naive, in fact I've always been told that I'm a very nice polite, courteous, respectful person and am a very good friend and person in general. Treat me nicely and I'll treat you nicely, ignore me (or something I write when I need help with it) and then you're testing my patients and my politeness. (As I've said a lot in this post: "Do unto others as you want done unto you!") (Treat me right and I'll treat you right, and a major part of treating some right is not ignoring them.) [Would you ignore someone in real life if they were hurt or needed your help? You should use the same type of treatment online and on different forums.]

posted on March 16th, 2013, 10:30 am

your thread is 7 pages long and 90% of it is walls of text, and BLAAAAAAAHHHH. you're not getting any answers, give up, request a lock.

if you're brave (and think you can be concise) try a new thread with 1 question at a time.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 4:12 pm

Whether you see it or not your attitude has turned some people off. All of your posts from the first Excelsior saucer sep debacle to your personal mod questions are all the same and drip in self-centeredness. You have asked questions and gotten answers to questions so saying no one will help you is a false statement. I'm sorry if those answers weren't what you were looking for or that they weren't a step by step blueprint on exactly how to get your mod to work, but you have been getting help.

You've done so much to your mod that no one knows "exactly" what the problem is. You've deleted so many things and added so many things that it could be anything. It's great that you help other people with their questions but then you go on a rant telling them that no one will help you which is disrespectful to everyone. Just use some common decency. I'm sorry you don't see it this way, but if you ask a question then you wait for an answer. Simple as. If you don't get an answer then accept it and move on. Now, save the inane counter pioints discussion to what I've just stated and take it as constructive criticism, becuase every single response post you make is a list of how you are right and the other person is wrong. Ah, ah, ah, see.........just let it go.

Your questions:
1a/b/c. Not sure on the fleet cap thing. Look at the latest FO and copy it. Try it and see what it does.

2a. For warp-ins look at a warp in mod (many have done their own, modified different ships to warp in) and see what they did and copy it. Try it and see what happens.

2b. Not sure what you mean by are warp-ins controllable by the player? You click a warp in button and after a count down the ships arrive and you can control their movement/attacks.

2c. I don't recall the AI using warp-ins when playing instant action? Not sure if they can. Try it and see.

3a/b/c. Not sure on fighters. They aren't individual controllable ships but I assume they'll attack enemy ships/statsions alike? Try changing the odf and see what happens.

4a. PNG files are similar to BMP but they have a smaller file size so take up less room. Can't imagine one causing an error?

4b. The guide talks about the asset version. It's the version of FO your mod will use.

4c. The Classic Mod doesn't even have the line parentmod= so if you're not using it as a parent leave it out I would say.

5a. Adding another race to the classic mod. Not sure why Blade says it's hard to do? Why don't you add a race to the classic mod and see what happens?

5b. Why don't you compare the race odf files of the stock A2 and the classic mod and see if he added anything? The tricky part will be determining which files Blade added to the classic mod that weren't needed as Dominus stated in another thread.

6a/b/c. Not sure?

7. For the input.map file why don't you compare them again and see if something is different? Look at the FO one and see what they did?

8. I deleted the RGB folder in the textures folder in the STA2 Classic mod and my personal mod and they both work fine. Try it and see what happens.

9a/b. Not sure about removing the extra global.gui coding? Try it and see what happens.

10a/b/c. You can remove the _1 and _2 texture files (and more numbers if the textures have even more LOD's, some have as many as 5 levels) and everything will work fine. Those _1 and _2 textures are just smaller versions of the main texture so that in game (usually for lesser powered machines) the game would only need to render the lower quality texture until you zoomed in on the object. I've deleted them out of my mod and the classic mod and all is fine.

11. Not sure why Blade deleted them? Could be part of what Dominus stated that got added/deleted by mistake?

12a/b. Not sure about the coding? Try changing it back and see what happens?

13a/b. Not sure about the network.cfg? Don't know if anyone ever played it online with a friend? Have you tried it?

14 and 15. Not sure again. Could be added incorrectly as Dominus stated? Try changing it or deleting it and see what happens?

16. For the FO shield SOD, try it and see what happens. I use one of the fleet ops shields in my A2 personal mod so experiment with it.

17. Sounds like the window icon file was corrupt or something and posed a problem for SquireJames?

18a/b. I think that shield code is specific to FO and can't be used in A2 or the classic mod. Blade is using the FO shield effects but it is the same effect per race (unlike in FO where each race has it's own shield effects) Try it and see what happens.

19/20/21. Not sure about the research? Never tried anything like it.Check other mods and experiment?

22. I think all the things built by the AI would be handles through the build lists. I could be wrong but think the AI is pretty limited in what it can do so you have to control it through its build lists.

23. Not sure, I never tried KA2 mod?

I hope this provides maybe a tiny bit of help to you? The common theme is to experiment. Try something and if it doesn't work change it back. I saved a file, changed it, experimented with what it did and changed it back countless times. You'll rarely get it done for you by someone else or even a step by step blueprint on exactly what you need to do so take any help that points you in the right direction and go from there.

posted on March 16th, 2013, 7:14 pm

@086gf: Well I do have two versions of my mod, and both will if possible have the FleetOps weapons that I like if its plausible for a. stock mod if its the same coding (as in weapon classlabels).

Because of my other questions not being answered I can't get my FleetOps version of my mod to run, and using the STA2_Classic Mod just results in a crash, it won't work with a Parent Mod it needs to be standalone, yet I'm still not getting majorly needed answers, not even from any of the Devs who've made the engine (adapted it) and all thus extra coding, yet I see many if them replying to other threads, and all the while I'm running out of ideas on what to try that might just get it to work.

I'm really starting to see why many mod ideas get started, even mentioned in the forums and then eventually die out. It's simple really, I've come up with a simple template for such a process:
1. Someone needs help
2. Posts questions, bug reports or their problem they are having.
3. Wait for answers.
4. No answers yet, wait some more.
5. Work on something else that won't break the mod further, ODF edits, AI, etc (like I am at the moment)
6. Wait for answers, and brainstorm/ask more questions.
7. Still nothing happens, start losing interest in modding.
8. Continue losing interest in the mod and modding in general
9. Hope to God for answers to posted questions and or bug reports.... No answers.
10. Give up, call it quits, the mod dies.
11. Someone finally shows interest.... (Or possibly not, mod stays dead)

Looks like I can keep working on the stock version but the FleetOps version has so much extra unique features only possible with FleetOps.

This here is NOT a question, this post is what is commonly referred to as griefing and getting pissy about not recieving help, so dont say all your posts are asking questions. And rifraf hit the nail on the head, you are so busy pointing out in your posts how you are correct and everyone disagreeing with you is wrong, that you wont even stop to consider that maybe, just maybe you are the one one with the attitude issue. By your logic, EVERYONE in the community is a jerk because they dont answer your questions, reguardless of if they are able to or not. You somehow seem to think your entitled to getting your questions answered. Your reasoning that it wont take alot of time to answer doesnt pan out, just because YOU have time to answer questions and post, doesnt mean that everyone else does, or is inclined to. You argue with everyone that disagrees with you constantly.

At this point you cant force people to answer your questions, so you either need to stop lamenting this fact, or just give up on asking questions. If youre really that bothered by the community then why do you continue to post these types of comments?

posted on March 17th, 2013, 12:19 am

Regarding the icon thing, originally I was ahem, lazy, and used a renamed BMP as an icon. It works fine in Windows, but it's not a valid icon file really, which causes problems with other programs.

If I had that "icon" file, as the icon for my mod, FleetOps refused to run. Couldn't even get to regular FleetOps, just crashed it from the get go. Totally my fault, and I have since used a proper icon extractor to get the actual icon from the original Klingon Academy exe and I now use that with no issues.

When Je_Mezu said that he couldn't even run regular FleetOps now unless his mod was removed from the mod folder, it sounded similar to that, hence my bringing it up. I don't think that was the issue eventually, but I thought it pertinent to bring it up since its one of those weird game-breaking things you wouldn't even think to check. I mean, who'd think that a dodgy icon file would crash an entire game? Not me certainly

posted on March 17th, 2013, 1:12 am

@rifraf: Thanks for replying, I'll get to checking out your answers and implementing/trying them. I would have mentioned that sooner except I've been having a very tough day. Had a friend over, been fighting my Internet with a new Belkin Wireless Router, and for some reason couldn't get on xBox Live all day, up until awhile ago and now finally watching some X-Files on Netflix.

@SquireJames: I think I've encountered that icon problem, I wanted to change the folder icon for the CutDown Parent Mod for your KA2: EaW and decided to give it a new icon for purposes of not confusing it with another (aka, the STA2_Classic Mod) but the new icon failed and yet again the FleetOps executable wouldn't launch again and with it no new mod added to the Mods Directory (in fact, I remove my attemp at getting Miklosgo's Star Wars mod that I attempted to get working that way but I gave up on that idea). Well along story short, I revert back to the original STA2_Classic Mod's icon file before I could get FleetOps to launch again. Thanks SquireJames for answering a question I've been planning on posting without me even having to ask it, I really appreciate it. As much as I'm not glad to know that someone else had the same issue, its taught me something new.

@Myles: If you actually look at those "so called walls of text" you'd actually notice that most of them are either numbered questions, different inquiries, to help me figure out other important information, and/or are related to my posted bug reports. They arenot "just walls of text", they are posts to get information that I've been needing and wouldn't be posted if I have been getting clear an precise answers/information for my questions.

@equinox1701e: I am not getting briefing or pissy, if anything I've been getting aggravated for how impossible it is to get things done with out the answers to questions that I've only asked because they'd make things a lot easier instead if as hard as they are now and are continuing to get. I haven't said anyone here are jerks for how they are t answering any of my questions and I'm not even implying that they are.

I am not disagreeing with everyone or saying that they are wrong without right trying what they have said to do, but when it doesn't work or if it fails, then I say so. Just one of those major fails was attempting to use the STA2_Classic Mod as a Parent Mod, for every mod I've tried to do that with be followed the steps in the guide but none of those steps have worked, all the mods in question have crashed instead, they don't except the STA2_Classic Mod as a Parent Mod and if I got any bug reports for those crashes (which I'm not, they aren't being generated) I'd be willing to guess that they would somehow state that they aren't excepting the STA2_Classic Mod as a Parent Mod. I've ran my own experiments to confirm this theory with other mods that are for FleetOps.

Lastly I hate it when people assume things here. I'm not bothered by the community at all, and if I give up on asking questions for what I need answered to actually complete my mod (or any other mod for that matter), then that means my mod just dies and will never be completed and all the time put into it would turn out to have been a waste of time that could have been used for other things.

posted on March 17th, 2013, 3:37 am

When I say no one will help me or answer my questions is because small cryptic answers that tell me to check out the guide or FleetOps ODF files DON'T help, I do that before I post my question for every single question. If I'm posting a question asking about something, especially FleetCaps and Warp-Ins as examples is because both the guide and the FleetOps ODF files are making it harder to understand and finding out the information I'm after.

If anything, I want less ODF files and FleetOps references so many extra ODF files especially with FleetCaps and Warp-Ins, that it wakes things very confusing with those things. In my opinion, it seems that the FleetOps Devs are "ODF file happy", after all there are so many ODF files in that .fpq file. No offense, but I want less ODF files in my mod and the exact needed coding for the given ships or stations ODF file, but instead in FleetOps ODF files using FleetCaps (especially the Dominion Prototype vessels) for example this line of coding is in the dom_warfrigatePY.odf file:

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fleetcapfile = "all_cap_unique.odf"

Checking that file it has nothing that seems to sort out the information I'm looking for:

Here's my example:

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Max Buildable #
maxBuildableNumber = 24

I've found these codes in the guide http://guide.fleetops.net/guide/modding/odf-commands but I can't find these codes within FleetOps for some reason. That is why I keep asking these questions for FleetCaps.
Coding Examples that I don't even know if they'll give me the effect I'm looking for:

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maxcap = 3

(

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maxCap = 3 [This is the maximum number of ships you can have of this cap.]

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simpleCapMode = 2

(

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simpleCapMode =  2 [This means that any ship that says it uses this cap can only be built the specified number of times.]

Plus I don't know how to implement this coding or fully how to use i, I've even noticed that in the ships that should have FleetCaps in FleetOps don't even have this coding that includes the coding I've posted above.

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affectsAI =

(

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affectsAI   [If 0, the fleetcap does not restrict the AI]

(This actually answers one of my questions but I'm still confused on how it works and with which one of the FleetCap codes the one I see in FleetOps ODF files that I've referenced or something different.)

Then there is coding I don't even know if I need, actually a lot in that section if the guide but here's one:

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countcinstruction = 1

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countconstructions = 1    [If the unit is in the build queue then it would be counted toward the fleet cap if set to 0 then it's not]

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In the guide though on top of this section with the FleetCap information, there's a part that says:

Fleetcap Configuration Files (removed in FO4.0)

. That means that I don't know what configuration files are being removed in FO (FleetOps) 4.0, is it the files referenced in the dom_warfrigatePY.odf file that I mentioned above?