3.1.2 Bugs and Issues

posted on May 4th, 2010, 10:48 pm

I've noticed a couple of instances where fleets of ships seem to be a bit lazy in actually moving. Occasionally I have to click 2-3 times behind my intended target, while they mosey on about their business obvious to the fact that a lone ship is Om Nom Nomming them one by one, while I'm frantically trying to get my fleet to move towards it.

Having said that, when they do finally move, the explosive aftermath is most impressive. I tip my hat to explosions like that .

As to that Venture, maybe you could try force firing your own ships. Surely it'd be like repairing them by the same amount as Offense 3, or rather; Repair 3. Perhaps it could be a special, combined with the Repair Ship . Get the Venture to shoot the Deflector Dish ( because everything has to have something to do with the Deflector Dish) of the repair ship and then it explodes, sending out waves of pro-Federation waves, which repair every Federation ship within a certain radius . jk; surely that'd be grossly unbalanced.

posted on May 4th, 2010, 10:50 pm

if that is so then the tooltip should mention that it cannot move. currently the tooltip says that it will move slower. either system is fine, as long as they match up  ^-^

Could it be implemented that the venture does not stop, but cannot change current movement? Would be more interesting then, as your scout will behave like a probe for a moment. With some skill you could effectivly cover a larger area, with bad luck crash into a group of hostiles. Further, nature gives exactly no reason to stop the vehicle.

[Myles]

posted on May 4th, 2010, 11:05 pm

Last edited by Myles on May 4th, 2010, 11:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No, it mentions that movement is at a minimum

it says movement speed will be reduced to a minimum. that implies that it will still have a movement speed. that it will actually move, just at the slowest speed possible, which is still some speed.

i like the idea of the venture having to stop, i just think the tooltip should be rewritten to say that the venture will have its engines turned off/disabled to run the scans.

why would the descent not obey the veteran cap? i understand allowing mckinley yard built ships to avoid the warpin cap, but why the veteran cap, that works fine as it is. the ability to build multiple descents is op enough, imagine the horror if they all become vets

another issue:

risner and mayson now have separate turret weapons which is brilliant

but it seems that risners turret with standard photons is more powerful than maysons which has quantums. i did the math, the risner photon torp turret does 4 dps more than the mayson one, going by the tooltips for the launchers and assuming 100% hitrate. yet confusingly the offense rating for the turrets is the same.

one thing i find odd about her turret is that it fires in single shots, and each shot does more damage than a quantum torp.

also every shot seems to hit, it never misses, even against small ships.

posted on May 4th, 2010, 11:26 pm

In regard to movement speed: that seems reasonable to me Myles

Oh, I just bet all their caps were removed by mistake then 

Ah, that is indeed odd that Mayson's torp turret is weaker.

Turrets never miss against ships, nothing new there though

posted on May 4th, 2010, 11:33 pm

Turrets never miss against ships, nothing new there though

you are right about that, i mistook a turret missing a drifiting ship as missing.

next problem, im hoping its only my machine 

the romulan stationary cloak for the defence battery appears to be resource hungry. massive battles between huge numbers of ships doesnt slow me down, but any more than 6 turrets will cause massive slow downs. if you decloak the turrets it perks up.

posted on May 4th, 2010, 11:34 pm

yep risners turret deals to much damage. fixed

[Myles]

posted on May 4th, 2010, 11:43 pm

Last edited by Myles on May 5th, 2010, 12:10 am, edited 1 time in total.

another question:

the tavara is different depending on avatar choice

one avatar gives +4 off the other +3 off (they also have other bonuses) yet both start at the same off value of 73.

EDIT: another bug:

the veteran bortas gets field replicators which make the attack probe stronger. this is what the tooltip says. but double gold bar bortas can drop the stronger attack probe even though they dont have the replicators yet. the turret is just as strong, and it says that its carrier had the replicators. but the bortas tooltip dont display the replicators until veteran. was the replicators supposed to be for veteran or just gold bar ships?

also when promoting a bortas to veteran it loses its current order. so it will stop moving and sit still. dont know if this applies to all ships.

also remember the bug where if you activated the ambassador's special all ships would stop shooting it because a replaceweapon was used? well that still happens.

also unity one was given two specials to use, neither of them actually work.

posted on May 5th, 2010, 12:17 am

The shield impact explosion effects for torpedoes and pulses are quite a ways away from the shields for me but are on the hull when the shields are down.

here is a screenshot of what cabal mentioned.



right click and select view image if it doesnt fit.

sorry for double post

posted on May 5th, 2010, 12:39 am

link=topic=7448.msg123621#msg123621 date=1273016595]
another question:

the tavara is different depending on avatar choice

one avatar gives +4 off the other +3 off (they also have other bonuses) yet both start at the same off value of 73.

EDIT: another bug:

the veteran bortas gets field replicators which make the attack probe stronger. this is what the tooltip says. but double gold bar bortas can drop the stronger attack probe even though they dont have the replicators yet. the turret is just as strong, and it says that its carrier had the replicators. but the bortas tooltip dont display the replicators until veteran. was the replicators supposed to be for veteran or just gold bar ships?

also when promoting a bortas to veteran it loses its current order. so it will stop moving and sit still. dont know if this applies to all ships.

also remember the bug where if you activated the ambassador's special all ships would stop shooting it because a replaceweapon was used? well that still happens.

also unity one was given two specials to use, neither of them actually work.
[/quote]

Tavara off/def and BortaS Field Replicator one sounds like a bug.

All replaceweapons have that effect (like that mentioned on the Ambassador or promoting to Veteran). That will be remedied in a few patches

The explosions appearing far away only seems to happen when you have a ton of lag the first time you shoot it seems to me... 

posted on May 5th, 2010, 12:53 am

Has anyone noticed that the borg are extremely difficult to win against in this patch?

I use to be able to win against them 1v1 them being on merciless, and I just got pwnd on Hard.   They built around 20 Dodc's 3 cubes, like 10 spheres, it was pretty crazy.  I have never seen them build that many ships.

I attached the adm's log.  i really got creamed, and they seriously had too many ships for hard.  maybe good for merciless, but not the second level(hard).  Maybe more true to the name, but still...

Ok, so the upload folder is still full, so here is the actual log.

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----- AI Hard   (Team 2)   Borg -----
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57086.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 7221 (Assembly Node)
57018.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 9441 (Assembly Node)
57152.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 1300 (Assimilation Matrix)
59245.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 1315 (Assimilation Matrix)
59104.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 9426 (Assimilation Matrix)
57014.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 1311 (Assimilator)
57729.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57905.5   Destroyed by USS Reid (Rnk 2)   (Galaxy Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4133 (Assimilator)
57669.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58024.0   Destroyed by USS Salyut (Rnk 2)   (Ambassador Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7236 (Assimilator)
57955.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58090.7   Destroyed by Unknown
Vessel 7220 (Assimilator)
58031.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58595.6   Defeated Automated Defense 210   (Pulse Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
58767.9   Defeated USS Aquila   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58773.9   Defeated USS Wurttemburg (Rnk 3)   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1355 (Assimilator)
58131.6   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58608.8   Defeated USS Ulysses   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58643.9   Defeated USS Sphalerite   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58770.7   Defeated USS Eris   (Excelsior-II Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58798.3   Defeated USS Van Depoele   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4189 (Assimilator)
57993.7   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58603.1   Defeated USS Faroe Island   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58636.7   Defeated USS Basilone   (Intrepid Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58640.2   Defeated USS Lilith (Rnk 4)   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58740.1   Defeated USS Everest   (Excelsior-II Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58814.8   Defeated USS Shannon   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58817.0   Defeated USS Rajan   (Mediterranean Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58921.9   Defeated USS Maughmer   (Mediterranean Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
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58169.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58625.5   Defeated Station Psi   (Storage Dock, Adm_Zaxxon)
58737.1   Defeated Automated Defense 147   (Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
58774.7   Defeated USS Accuracy   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58788.5   Defeated USS Labo   (Akira Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58801.8   Defeated USS Kraus   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58915.2   Defeated USS Corona   (Steamrunner Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58936.0   Defeated Starbase 219   (Outpost, Adm_Zaxxon)
58939.3   Defeated Station Sho   (Storage Dock, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4120 (Collective Uplink)
57328.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 7260 (Conduction Matrix)
57117.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 1300 (Cube)
59097.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4149 (Cube)
59250.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 7287 (Cube)
59174.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4132 (Detector)
57298.5   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58495.7   Destroyed by USS Zealand   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 9436 (Detector)
58544.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 9438 (Detector)
57015.3   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58502.4   Destroyed by Automated Defense 210   (Pulse Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 9405 (Diamond)
59023.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 7226 (Diamond)
58967.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
59075.1   Defeated Automated Defense 150   (Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1316 (Dodecahedron)
58552.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58754.1   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 1329 (Dodecahedron)
57918.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58462.4   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 1361 (Dodecahedron)
58818.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 1366 (Dodecahedron)
58881.6   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4135 (Dodecahedron)
58912.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4191 (Dodecahedron)
58348.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58742.9   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 7214 (Dodecahedron)
57791.8   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58013.0   Destroyed by USS Ulysses (Rnk 2)   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7222 (Dodecahedron)
57854.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58285.0   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 1369 (Dodecahedron)
58630.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58809.4   Defeated USS Horologium   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58812.7   Destroyed by Automated Defense 230   (Torpedo Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1382 (Dodecahedron)
57760.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57956.4   Defeated USS Hertz   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58037.4   Destroyed by Starbase 219   (Outpost, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4128 (Dodecahedron)
58093.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58555.2   Defeated USS Anzac   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4147 (Dodecahedron)
58201.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58792.3   Defeated USS Reeves   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7253 (Dodecahedron)
58062.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58545.2   Defeated USS Regatta   (Intrepid Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58553.2   Destroyed by USS Lilith (Rnk 4)   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
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58231.8   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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58625.3   Defeated USS Rand   (Intrepid Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58785.4   Defeated USS Kihnwood   (Excelsior-II Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58804.3   Defeated USS Gramme   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58906.5   Defeated USS Falx   (Steamrunner Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1316 (Dodecahedron Relay)
58754.1   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 1329 (Dodecahedron Relay)
58462.4   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 4191 (Dodecahedron Relay)
58742.9   Changed mode of operation
Vessel 7222 (Dodecahedron Relay)
58285.0   Changed mode of operation
Complex 1357 (Incubation Center)
58962.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 1375 (Incubation Center)
58351.5   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 2411 (Incubation Center)
57613.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 4107 (Incubation Center)
57503.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 7297 (Incubation Center)
57931.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
USS Tesla (Mandril Class)
57473.8   Commissioned (Adm_Zaxxon)

58558.0   Assimilated by AI Hard
58559.0   Destroyed by Automated Defense 210   (Pulse Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
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57350.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57636.3   Destroyed by Unknown
Vessel 1342 (Probe)
57453.6   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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Vessel 1355 (Probe)
57743.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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Vessel 1410 (Probe)
58903.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4100 (Probe)
58030.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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Vessel 4105 (Probe)
57401.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57770.4   Destroyed by USS Silla (Rnk 2)   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4120 (Probe)
57978.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58070.9   Destroyed by USS Wurttemburg (Rnk 3)   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7268 (Probe)
57691.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 7274 (Probe)
58646.3   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4164 (Probe)
58126.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58584.4   Defeated USS Ulysses (Rnk 2)   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58591.2   Destroyed by USS Sirocco (Rnk 2)   (Akira Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7282 (Probe)
57826.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57903.2   Defeated USS Silla (Rnk 2)   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
57922.1   Destroyed by USS Wurttemburg (Rnk 3)   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 9428 (Probe)
58367.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58532.3   Defeated USS Zealand   (Norway Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58613.4   Defeated USS Harrier   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58849.1   Destroyed by Automated Defense 230   (Torpedo Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
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58727.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 9445 (Pyramid)
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58820.5   Defeated Automated Defense 307   (Pulse Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
58859.6   Defeated Automated Defense 230   (Torpedo Platform, Adm_Zaxxon)
58913.9   Defeated USS Flake   (Galaxy Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58940.5   Defeated USS Orpheus   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1383 (Resource Assimilator)
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Vessel 4124 (Resource Assimilator)
57177.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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57228.5   Commissioned (AI Hard)
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Vessel 7278 (Resource Assimilator)
58704.3   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 9404 (Resource Assimilator)
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Vessel 9436 (Resource Assimilator)
57202.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 1322 (Resource Node)
58221.8   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 1351 (Resource Node)
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Complex 4125 (Resource Node)
57466.5   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 4137 (Resource Node)
57159.5   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 6415 (Resource Node)
57099.1   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 7256 (Resource Node)
57351.9   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 7286 (Resource Node)
58248.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Complex 9422 (Resource Node)
58792.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 7264 (Scoutcube)
58755.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 1387 (Scoutcube)
57429.0   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58620.6   Defeated USS Australia   (Galaxy Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4189 (Scoutcube)
57456.8   Commissioned (AI Hard)
57814.2   Defeated USS Neon   (Venture Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58681.8   Destroyed by Starbase 219   (Outpost, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 7295 (Scoutcube)
57484.6   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58565.5   Defeated USS Lemur   (Excelsior Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 1300 (Sphere)
59344.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 1368 (Sphere)
59297.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
Vessel 4122 (Sphere)
58489.3   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58859.5   Defeated USS Big Bend   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4130 (Sphere)
58599.4   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58799.5   Defeated USS Purple Sands   (Saber Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58825.5   Defeated USS Destination (Rnk 2)   (Steamrunner Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58827.8   Defeated USS Witwatersand   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58879.9   Defeated USS Ayers   (Mediterranean Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
59241.4   Defeated USS Reed   (Excelsior-II Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4119 (Sphere)
58442.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58660.3   Defeated USS Seebeck   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58706.9   Defeated USS Spitfire   (Akira Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58726.1   Defeated USS Reid (Rnk 2)   (Galaxy Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58733.1   Defeated USS Burke   (Ambassador Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58746.5   Defeated USS Tambora   (Akira Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58756.9   Defeated USS Salyut (Rnk 2)   (Ambassador Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
59104.7   Defeated Command Base 138   (Starfleet Command, Adm_Zaxxon)
Vessel 4150 (Sphere)
58395.3   Commissioned (AI Hard)
58598.3   Defeated USS Sirocco (Rnk 2)   (Akira Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58631.2   Defeated USS Pinyin   (Ambassador Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58647.7   Defeated USS Danan   (Intrepid Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58698.6   Defeated USS Archibald   (Nova Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58776.3   Defeated USS Yablochkov   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58815.6   Defeated USS Japan   (Excelsior Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58827.3   Defeated USS Huang He   (Steamrunner Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58832.5   Defeated USS Klondike   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
58834.8   Defeated USS Atlin   (Mandril Class, Adm_Zaxxon)
Station Alpha (Storage Dock)
57713.5   Commissioned (Adm_Zaxxon)

59212.5   Assimilated by AI Hard
Complex 7256 (Transmission Matrix)
57631.2   Commissioned (AI Hard)

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posted on May 5th, 2010, 1:11 am

I use to be able to win against them 1v1 them being on merciless, and I just got pwnd on Hard.  They built around 20 Dodc's 3 cubes, like 10 spheres, it was pretty crazy.  I have never seen them build that many ships.

Resistance is futile, mother[censored]!!!

posted on May 5th, 2010, 1:22 am

no joke

posted on May 5th, 2010, 1:56 am

Has anyone noticed some of the old tooltips are still around?  The Borg Sensor Relay still says it detects cloaked vessels. 

posted on May 5th, 2010, 2:51 am

Indeed Borg

A few more bugs as well: the tooltip for the generix refit upgrade button for support lists the wrong values.

For the Eresis, does radiation array do split, or (the tooltip says the damage is split between ALL targets)?

The Serkas decloaks when using Silent Resolve on buildings.

The C-11 Romulan Mixed Tech cap unit is not capped like the Support Refit

Nova doesn’t say that consumes slots on Veteran rank (though it does consume 4).

posted on May 5th, 2010, 6:26 am

It is 3.1.2
I have the same thing of my last post : Star Trek Armada II: Fleet Operations - windows mode : bug?
for that windows mode i can't go on interface
and if i go for my game to the menu i got than black screen but i hear the sound of the buttons
but ingame is ever thing good

i have the same problem on my windows vista 32 bit.  nvidia geforce go 7900 gs 256 mb