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posted on March 14th, 2011, 4:54 pm

Worf is the Federation Ambassador to Qo'noS, not the Klingon Ambassador. I don't know how politics works, but I doubt leaving Starfleet would be required. He was probably a reserve, not retired but not active.

posted on March 14th, 2011, 5:42 pm

assuming being the fed ambassador, we have 2 things that make serving in starfleet difficult:

First is the precedent, kehlhr is the only ambassador we saw, and she wasnt in starfleet, thats is only 1 ambassador we saw so we need more. all the ambassadors we see (in general, not just for klinks) are not starfleet. We saw the ones bashir saved, and troi's mother. And i think we saw some others that dont spring to mind as easily due to lack of sleeps.

second is real life, its rare to see an ambassador being a member of the military. A possible example of military diplomats would be countries where the military is in control, the fed isnt like that. I think the feds would have civilians do their high level diplomacy with the exception of exploration related stuff, ie picard's cup of earl grey.

I'd prefer to think that worf got bored of ambassadoring, and went back to starfleet and rejoined the ent crew. They never said anything to make that impossible i dont think.

posted on March 14th, 2011, 5:58 pm

Usally, the only ambassadors we see are specialists or legends though. Starfleet amabassadors seen were usually just ship captains with temporary powers, like Picard at times.

Proper (non-specialised) ones in Starfleet wouldn't seem too out of place with it being a military/civilian mix that has its hand in practically everything else, and aren't exactly the same as real-life. Not happening here doesn't definatly rule it out there.

If Worf was a reserve, he probably could go back into active service. Any trouble, and he would have several big names on his side.

posted on March 14th, 2011, 6:49 pm

On Nemisis they were on a diplomatic mission, mabey worf was the closest ambassador and they just sent him for the heck of it, moral support, anti-reman trigger finger, corridor security, take your pick

posted on March 14th, 2011, 8:54 pm

Starfleet amabassadors seen were usually just ship captains with temporary powers, like Picard at times.

ive never seen a fed ambassador that was in starfleet. in canon that is.

here is a ma list of fed ambassadors:

Ambassadors - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki

cant see any that were in starfleet.

i think it would be improper to have an ambassador, who spends a lot of time on other races' homeworlds, near their leaders and command centres, to be a member of the military. reserve status is iffy, if he relinquished his rank and position, and was just told "you can come back later if u want" i think that it would be ok with klinks and feds, martok would probably ok it.

On Nemisis they were on a diplomatic mission, mabey worf was the closest ambassador and they just sent him for the heck of it, moral support, anti-reman trigger finger, corridor security, take your pick

worf was there before admiral janeway sent the ent to the romulans for peace stuff.

posted on March 14th, 2011, 9:06 pm

just ship captains with temporary powers. Maybe it should have had a couple ' around the word.

posted on March 14th, 2011, 11:51 pm

Well in the books anyway (hey considering Jar Jar Abrams explains his plot holes in a comic, and how crap Nemesis was, using books makes sense) Worf ended up resigning and going back to starfleet and, for a time at least, Alexander took his place.

Also, to the Klinks an Ambasador in military would be considerd a COMPLIMENT.

Oh also....  General Korrd, Anyone ?

posted on March 14th, 2011, 11:58 pm

Korrd wasn't in Starfleet, though and wasn't in the best position, career-wise. Everyone's a warrior in the Defense force, but he was likely in that job just to keep him occupied.

Sending a member of Starfleet probably would suit the Klingons better than a civilian, though still not an active officer.

posted on March 26th, 2011, 5:09 am

What happens if the reboot writing team decides the old klingons aren't *(...) enough for their warped desires, and then use their magic to make them 'new & improved' somehow?

*: who knows, or, wants to?

posted on March 26th, 2011, 7:07 pm

I don't have much of a problem accepting red matter as a possible substance. Think about anti-matter; as soon as it comes in to contact with normal matter it annihilates. That's a weird concept but we readily accept it now.

We have antimatter IRL dude. We cant create more than a few atoms at a time, but it EXISTS.

What happens if the reboot writing team decides the old klingons aren't *(...) enough for their warped desires, and then use their magic to make them 'new & improved' somehow?

*: who knows, or, wants to?

They become space pirates and eat the flesh of their enemies.

posted on March 26th, 2011, 7:17 pm

According to the Brikar from the Starfleet Academy book series, Klingons are already like that.

posted on March 26th, 2011, 7:45 pm

We have antimatter IRL dude. We cant create more than a few atoms at a time, but it EXISTS.

I'm very aware that anti-matter is real. I'm just using its seemingly strange behaviour as an example that shows that something like red matter might be possible.

posted on March 27th, 2011, 1:46 am

According to the Brikar from the Starfleet Academy book series, Klingons are already like that.

Not as a whole, they have renegades and houses that are just dishonorable and act that way when they can get away with it.

Haemoclysm as for red matter, antimatter operates on logical physics, red matter would result in a much differnt operation of physics, of matter gaining mass. That is further enhanced by the romulans being unable to do anything, as they are already masters of artificial quantum singularities as power sources for their vessels.

posted on March 27th, 2011, 11:34 am

I was speaking of the Brikar view of them, which is strongly racist against Klingons.

posted on March 27th, 2011, 12:56 pm

Well, in TOS and Ent Klingons were quite like some pirate bands.

@Worf as Ambassador: The problem I have with Myles argumentation here is that I don't really consider Starfleet to be only the military of the federation. For me Starfleet seems to be more than that, they are also police, science, help for settlers and diplomats. For me it seems that Starfleet is actually "the state" or at least the executive of the state Federation of Planets. Therefore a member of Starfleet could easily represent the Federation.
Concerning Nemesis Worf just wanted to visit the marriage of Riker and Deanna and couldn't leave before the events began.