"Ambassador Class"

posted on November 30th, 2010, 11:06 am

Went to bing, typed in STAR TREK then typed in Ambassador Class.

Yeah sounds reliable. 

Ambassador class - Memory Alpha, the Star Trek Wiki < That'd be one good source to use, as Memory alpha almost purely based off of cannon work.

Based off of Cannon apparances, the Excal still is arround.

Of course if you bring in books, the Excal is gone and replaced by a Gal class Venture refit (or some other later era Gal class refit type)

posted on November 30th, 2010, 12:31 pm

..I'm not sure Navy is actually going for exclusivly canon information.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 4:30 am

Ambassador Class i see has been upgraded, like it like it alot!!!!!!!!!!!!

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 5:13 am

..I'm not sure Navy is actually going for exclusivly canon information.

Well if thats the case......... there is a whole book series about the ambassador class Excalibur and her galaxy class replacement.

Personaly, I think it's a shame the ambas got so little airtime. I get the impression that it was the closest the Federation had to a battleship in regular service at it's time, but it's time was a period mostly of peace, both due to the Romulan isolation after the Tomed incident and the Khitomer accords with teh Klingons, then the Tzinki the Cardies and others showed up, and it was realized that there was a need for something bigger (at which point the same peacetime mindset made the galaxy class).

Give it a refit with additonal torpedo bays, more phasers of more modern designs, prehaps a newly built warp core, and it could become almost as strong as teh galaxy class.

[navyguy]

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:04 am

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I see in the game here the Ambassador Class has gotten some thing's. I do like the upgraded Ambassador's no doubt they would hold off a Galaxy Class, i also noticed in the game the AMBASSADOR CLASS seem's a match for the Venture - Refit? i know as far as before the Ambassador Class was the guy you would call in when you wanted the best warpin.

posted on December 3rd, 2010, 6:49 am

Well part of the problem is the current Venture Refit ingame was implemented poorly, its simply a slightly changed model and a few buffs that do little for the new look, not really make it stand out stats wise. Personaly I think a Vet galaxy should be about 5-10 less than the Sovergin in offese stats.

posted on December 9th, 2010, 5:31 am

While reading i came across the arguement here, which was beter the phaser strip's or the traditional phaser's the answer is
Phaser Strip's, from what i understand they have a much faster cool down, and charge rate. Guess what ship first used them that's right the good old Ambassador Class, plus they cover a greater area of fire.

posted on December 9th, 2010, 10:20 pm

well we have seen the galaxy class turn the whole ship around in order to use the saucer huge phaser strip. that lends some support to the argument that the large array is better than the small ones.

i prefer to think that the newer technology is better in nearly all ways. but its far from decisive since they never went into detail in canon.

posted on December 9th, 2010, 10:30 pm

Starfleet favors more efficient tech, the prevalence of the newer type on all modern ships implies some advantage. The cooldown, chargerate and redundancy being my idea of where they're better.

On a side-note, aside from full-volleys during 1 or 2 conflicts with the Borg, did the Galaxy ever actually use the smaller strips? Even the lower saucer array rarely saw use in DS9's later seasons.

posted on December 9th, 2010, 10:34 pm

its almost certainly more efficient, i believe it would be more powerful too. since in trek, newer tech seems to be better in almost every way.

and the galaxy very rarely used its other strips, more support to the fact that longer strip is better than smaller strip.

now the harder question is whether strip is better than turret.

there is so little evidence in canon that we can draw practically no conclusions.

[Tyler]

posted on December 9th, 2010, 10:42 pm

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The strip-style being inherently stronger than the turret ones is unlikely, the power would come from how much the ship can put into the weapon. The tech used for the older weapon might not be able to handle as much power without overloading, but that's the kind of thing upgrades would be designed to overcome.

Turrets would probably be more cost efficient, having only a couple of emitters instead of an entire strip of them. Less weapon to spend resources on.

Shame canon doesn't give us much...

posted on December 9th, 2010, 11:46 pm

I'd say that the strip-type phasers are also more versatile - they give a greater range of coverage compared to the fixed turret-types, and it's also harder for the enemy to target an entire strip than a single turret emplacement (although it was never shown whether damaging part of a strip took the whole thing out of commission...)

Strange how you can have 14 years worth of material focused on ships that use this technology frequently and still have so many huge gaps in knowledge lol.....

[navyguy]

posted on December 11th, 2010, 7:32 am

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While watching Yesterday's Enterprise, i couldnt help but to think that the Enteprise c looked as if she took a lot of hits, but yet the Enterprise d take's some hits, good amount but she suffer's a dam near warpcore breech. I wish they were more accurate in the show's considering Tasha Yar claims the Galaxy Class can hang in a fire fight longer?

posted on December 19th, 2010, 6:02 am

Well tyler i watched Yesterday's Enterprise and yes they say its Enterprise C but what i was getting at was there was no mention of the Ambassador Class itself.

posted on December 20th, 2010, 12:18 am

I get the impression that the Ent C mostly lived as long as it did because it's crew was quite experinced, and going up against a group of Romulans who were both relativity inexperienced, had little first hand information on what they were fighting, and went in the fight with an excess of hubris. Then the Ent C kicked their teeth in, and they were suprised enough to lower their effectivness a tad more.