Morality distortion.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 2:49 am

Yes, and every choice has tangible ramifications in and through our lives.  This means that not all choices are equal.  Christianity is the best one I've found, but it's also the most complicated and difficult to balance.

I, for one, like the challenge.

I believe that other choices have some legitimacy, but I *know* that mine works.  If it didn't, I'd choose something else.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 3:02 am

In landmark they differentiate  between choosing and deciding Choosing is doing some thing you know you need to do may times its uncofterbule deciding is taking the easy rode

A chose can most times have only one option.

Its a powerful way to look at the world that helps define what needs doing.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 5:07 pm

And yet, all you need is your opinion alone.  If you can base it on other things, but most often, your opinion and personal experance is all that matters...to...yourself...if you understand that.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:25 pm

Its still not a opinion. opinions are personal views this as not a personal view as its my view that wood comes from trees.

Its no a opinion that water has hydrogen in it.

Its not my opinion that most guns are made out of mostly metal.

Its no my opinion that the easter bunny is not real.

Its not my opinion that Morality is not real.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:29 pm

I would disagree, but that is just my opinion I would say all those are your opinions, which happen to be based upon fact.

Just like you say there is hydrogen in water, because that is what we all have learned as fact, but very few of us can base that on personal experience.  Have we seen the hydrogen atoms in water?  We have evidence of it, but personally we have to trust the expert opinion of the scientist that tells us this.

but again, this is my opinion, and it should make no difference to you unless you agree.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:32 pm

Just like you say there is hydrogen in water, because that is what we all have learned as fact, but very few of us can base that on personal experience.  Have we seen the hydrogen atoms in water?  We have evidence of it, but personally we have to trust the expert opinion of the scientist that tells us this.

Or you could just look at the photos: or do a simple test yourself 

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:37 pm

yes, I suppose but you still just have an opinion based on fact.

How about the easter bunny, that is soo real to so many children?  We know it is fake, but children's opinion is all that matters to them.  Their opinion is that whatever told them about the easter bunny is the correct source,  even though we know it is wrong.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:38 pm

well then where did Morality come from its to complicated a concept to be part of DNA. the fact that it changes over time shows that that its different per case witch shows there is no Morality there are concepts people call Morality but to say what Morality is, is impassable.

Well using that same logic be hind saying that I may not be able to say for share that there hydrogen in water how can you say for share Morality is not made up?

Well for me to agree you will need to show me some evidence to have me except your point I have evidences to say its not so.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:51 pm

well then where did Morality come from its to complicated a concept to be part of DNA.

Don't give me that. Grammer "comes from" DNA afterall . Morality is quite evolutionary useful, and many other organisms use some sort of reasoning we would consider "morality". Off the top of my head, there's a wonderful study involving (I think it was mice) mice, where two mice are kept in side by side cages. An electrical impulse is hooked up to the food container, and whenever the mouse on the left goes to get food, the one on the right gets shocked. Well, turns out, the one on the left stops eating and starves itself in all of the trials.

posted on July 9th, 2009, 6:59 pm

Communication is learned to a existent.

Morality did not exits until Christianity came around defined as it is.

But lets look at what is it?

What is Morality is it no killing for some it is hows to say what is the right Morality?

posted on July 9th, 2009, 7:07 pm

So the rest of the world didn't have "a code of conduct or belief which is held to be authoritative in matters of right and wrong. Morals are arbitrarily created and subjectively defined by society, philosophy, religion, and/or individual conscience" or for that matter "an ideal code of belief and conduct, one which would be espoused in preference to other alternatives by the sane "moral" person, under specified conditions" until Christianity came around and was spread everywhere (which it still isn't everywhere)?

Morality can often mean "no wrongful killing": but define it as you like and then post it here please.

As for communication: languages are invented Ewm. Plenty of them have been invented in the past century or four (hey, even Klingon is an invented language that works). So why do you think we are so well adapted to creating and teaching languages? Grammer has been undeniable demonstrated to be innate. When you hit a certain age, you will no longer be able to intuitively "gain grammer" and will always have extreme difficulty at communicating (to the point of only knowing a few dozen words and not being able to get sentence structure correct).

posted on July 9th, 2009, 7:09 pm

Morality was around before Christianity.  Everyone has their own defonition of right and wrong.  Some of us choose to folow the magiority's rules, and some don't.  It has nothing to do with religion, because then you could say atheist's have no moral code.

I would say morality is your definition of right and wrong.  

posted on July 9th, 2009, 7:17 pm

Indeed Adm. Zaxxon, I agree

posted on July 9th, 2009, 7:19 pm

Oh My Gosh, it is a sign of the apocalypse!!!  Now we are all going to Die!!!

posted on July 9th, 2009, 7:30 pm

Of course we can agree!