Okinawa

posted on September 10th, 2010, 11:05 am

Considering his habit of getting Enterprise blown half-way to hell whenever in command, I'd be surprised if the even let him command one of those considering how much Admirals seem to like them.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 11:42 am

the existence of a ship called titan is canon, the fact that riker and troi are aboard is canon. the fact that the titan was probably destroyed soon after launch because of riker's idiocy is not canon, but likely.

all books are NOT canon.

all shows/movies are canon.

the only question is about the animated series, they are personal preference, at one point the makers considered them not canon, but more recently they are more tolerant of it. memory alpha considers animated series as canon.

nothing else is canon. stuff that is mentioned by production staff is not canon, but still carries a lot of weight as background info.

like the presence of the uss galaxy at chin'toka. canon wise, all we know is that there was a galaxy class ship there with registry NCC-70637, but production staff said on the net that it was the galaxy, so its commonly accepted as the galaxy.

books arent canon.

[Anonymous]

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:05 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on September 10th, 2010, 2:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Here are some Names for it:
USS Vanguard NCC-100200
USS Okinawa NX-100100
USS Sparta NCC-100204
USS Zeus NCC-100202
USS Iron Clad NCC-100205
USS Onyx NCC-100207
USS Nodachi NCC-100212
USS Titan NCC-100216
USS Star Fire  NCC-100217
USS Flare NCC-100218
USS Rome NCC-100223
USS Legion NCC-91101-A
USS Alamo NCC-100226
USS Katara NCC-100231
USS Golok NCC-100228
USS Montor NCC-87761-A
USS Katana NCC-100237
USS Tachi NCC-100241
USS Gunblade NCC-100242
USS Leonhart NCC-100243
USS Nihonto NCC-100248
USS Sabre NCC-100255
USS Odachi NCC-100257
USS Saif NCC-100314
USS Scimitar NCC-100316
USS Sai NCC-100320
USS Rapier NCC-100323
USS Seax NCC-100325
USS Dirk NCC-100328
USS Spatha NCC-100330
USS Xiphos NCC-100334
USS Machete NCC-100337
USS Ida NCC-100345
USS Shuriken NCC-100349
USS Warrior NCC-100353
USS Woodrow NCC-63033-B
USS Roosevelt NCC-2573-C
USS Marshall NCC-49006-B
USS Brooke NCC-67883-A
USS Keitel NCC-79661-A
USS Tiberius NCC-100379
USS McCoy NCC-100380
USS Chekov NCC-100383

... I can list more... but I'd hog the page. The reason most regestries are in the hundred thousand range is because by now we must have hit the six digits.

Some of your ship names are already taken by Canon Star Trek. USS Titan, is for sure, USS Sabre can't be used because that is the name sake to the Sabre-class.

Yes, I know that. About the Vanguard... Optec said it was one of its class. Besides... I may use USS Sabre since likely the first Saber is long out of service.

btw. Does one know the registry of the USS Roosevelt? I know it is a canon ship because I heard that name in an episode before. Just can't remember which.

all books are NOT canon.

Correct... they are semi-canon. It all depends on what people believe and not believe is reasonable to think is actually part of the time line. I wouldn't believe those Titan books because those were fan-made.

[Tyler]

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:22 pm

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The Roosevelts registry is NCC-2573 in the encyclopedia, but that's the only one I can find.

The Sabre/Saber name has no concensus anywhere, canon or otherwise. They're the same word and it depends on the person. Regardless, the class is pretty old and the prototype may not be in service anymore, which would make the name free, however it's spelt.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:36 pm

the Vanguard is not the first Okinawa Class spaceship, thats still the USS Okinawa herself. The USS Vanguard is just the first one (and the only one as far as i recall) that appears in a more prominent part of the FO storyline

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:43 pm

the Vanguard is not the first Okinawa Class spaceship, thats still the USS Okinawa herself. The USS Vanguard is just the first one (and the only one as far as i recall) that appears in a more prominent part of the FO storyline

Oh.... well, I guess that is a mistake on my part. I'll edit. Btw... any opinions as to the names and registries? Fitting? Or not?

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:48 pm

The names look good, but I'm still not sure about the registries. The guide said it's only 20 years after the war (50 at most), they can't have moved into 6-digits already.

How did you mistake it for the Vanguard Class when your own post you quoted shows the Okinawa as an NX ship?

posted on September 10th, 2010, 2:50 pm

How did you mistake it for the Vanguard Class when your own post you quoted shows the Okinawa as an NX ship?

I misread and thought Vanguard was the first... however Optec clarified it and so I changed it accordingly. And I was also told the first of each class gets the NX registry. However I often disagree with that, I went along with it.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 3:34 pm

Those registries are a little suspect... probably got a while yet before Starfleet moves onto 6 digits. There are about 25,000 higher than Voyager and Defiant.

What if Starfleet made a crapload of ships suddenly to replace Dominion War losses? 25,000 isn't unreasonable for the 8,000 lightyear-wide Federation that has hundreds upon hundreds of patrol-duty E1s and Mirandas that come out of nowhere just to get blown up.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 3:43 pm

They probably could build a good number more if they focused entirely on ships, but they also have to rebuild the planets taken or bombarded by the Dominion, re-establish lost outposts and assist the Cardassians with rebuilding (because they're just that nice). They would also have to fully rebuild their shipyards, though we didn't really hear much about the status of their yards or crew (and likely resource) shortages.

They'd have to get that lot out of the way first, but they could probably spam to their hearts content if the fix them fast. They have plenty of known shipyards.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 4:17 pm

Im content to let the devs name the ships whatever they come up with will be fine.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 9:19 pm

I misread and thought Vanguard was the first... however Optec clarified it and so I changed it accordingly. And I was also told the first of each class gets the NX registry. However I often disagree with that, I went along with it.

All experimental ships (or the beginnings of a class) carry the NX prefix, the Enterprise NX-01 and the NX-class are different in that, but they didn't even belong to the Federation, only to Starfleet.

The first Excelsior-class starship, the USS Excelsior was an NX registry (NX-2000) but it was eventually changed to the NCC prefix with the same number, but that ship made it to the Dominion War too. The USS Defiant is also in this catogory except for the San Palo when renamed Defiant kept the prefix it should have been changed to NCC then, I don't agree with that one part though.

You can check this on Memory Alpha and also on Star Trek's Official Website.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 9:23 pm

BUT they never said what CLASS it was they just said USS Titan so really for all we know it could be a bloody Excelsior class  lol that would be funny though seeing Riker commanding an Excelsior when he was first officer of a Sovie :p

The USS Titan is a Luna-class starship.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 9:27 pm

The USS Titan is a Luna-class starship.

not in canon it wasnt.

luna class comes from a book, which is not canon.

all we know from canon is that the titan exists, riker is captain and troi is there too. thats all we know.

everything else is not canon.

so any fan can choose any class for the titan and not violate canon.

posted on September 10th, 2010, 9:39 pm

not in canon it wasnt.

luna class comes from a book, which is not canon.

all we know from canon is that the titan exists, riker is captain and troi is there too. thats all we know.

everything else is not canon.

so any fan can choose any class for the titan and not violate canon.

Actually, Paramount choses what is canon and they are the ones who have come out and said that the USS Titan is a Luna-class starship. Its official and somewhere's I had found designs that Paramount has for the ship.