Why The Akira Class Never Has Torpedos

posted on December 12th, 2005, 7:37 pm

so i haven't seen the norway been blown up in that battle or the intrepid or a steamrunner or..... a soyuz or a freedom class or a yeager , ow wait they weren't in it. but would you imagine a 4 year long war with no destroyed akira's while federation ships where destroyed almost all the time and had even troubles producing

er.. there were several steamrunners getting destroyed while Picard was pausing over saying "fire" . A Norway gets destroyed by the blast & i didn't even see an Intrepid in that battle.

i'm not gullable to assume that the Akira's suffered no losses. My point was Fullphaser claimed that the Akiras were having thier @sses handed to them in the battle scenes, which they don't. you know some of them were destroyed, but from the "visual" lack of this evidence you are led to believe that like the Galaxy class, the Akira performed better than most other ship classes by quite a margin.

posted on December 12th, 2005, 7:51 pm

so based on .... nothing then but then again it is only a movie so you can pull facts about it anyway

posted on December 12th, 2005, 10:21 pm

so based on .... nothing then but then again it is only a movie so you can pull facts about it anyway

huh? care to connect those dots for me?

posted on December 13th, 2005, 4:23 am

er.. there were several steamrunners getting destroyed while Picard was pausing over saying "fire" . A Norway gets destroyed by the blast & i didn't even see an Intrepid in that battle.

i'm not gullable to assume that the Akira's suffered no losses. My point was Fullphaser claimed that the Akiras were having thier @sses handed to them in the battle scenes, which they don't. you know some of them were destroyed, but from the "visual" lack of this evidence you are led to believe that like the Galaxy class, the Akira performed better than most other ship classes by quite a margin.

quite the contrary, I never said they were having their ***** handed to them, rather that they did take a beating. lets see anybody trust memory alpha; anyways heres a screen cap of What I am going to assume is a trashed akira
http://www.trekmania.net/the_fleet/utopia/...irst_con001.jpg
http://memory-alpha.org/en/images/thumb/7/...on_platform.jpg
but know as far as power in battle I would say only the Galaxy and Sovi were stronger

posted on December 13th, 2005, 9:08 am

What is that second picture of? It looks like an explosion is reflecting off the Akira? and what's floating next to it? It looks like part of DS9 or something Cardassian

[Cpt Ryan]

posted on December 13th, 2005, 10:37 am

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the Akira in the first pic is the "Thunderchild" which can clearly be seen legging it away from the cubes final blast. plus the fact it only shows it taking a hit, not getting destroyed .

the second one is what i was talking about "battle to retake the Chin toka system". Like i said, there are a few holes in it but it really doesn't look that bad. (its out of that battle for sure but i think repairs can be made to that ship, so it doesn't count as destroyed. besides i already covered that one

[Casper]

posted on December 13th, 2005, 11:48 am

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i'd say the akira in that second shot is about to explode. they don't fare very well when they've lost a nacelle and are venting plasma like... um, some kind of plasma vent.

posted on December 13th, 2005, 12:09 pm

here's a better (larger) one http://www.ditl.org/gpaf/GChnBattle8.jpg
the big fire to the side seems (to me) to be where the impact of the plasma torpedo hit it, & it is now drifting, i dont think its gonna blow up, since despite the hull damage there isn't really much else in the way of (internal/external) explosions going on. As for the nacelle (look closely), it seems to be largely intact, apart from the outer hull being vaporised up to the connecting strut. Sure its smashed up, but i think this Akira will see more service (perhaps to extensively damage to see more of the war) but definately afterwards.

posted on December 13th, 2005, 2:35 pm

ok, i stand corrected. no shame in that. but i think it is still venting plasma from the busted up nacelle, which is a sign that the secondary power generater near that location is breaking down, and if it can't be repaired, the ship will be blown to bits, but seeing that there would be a lot of radiation from the secondary powerplant melting down, i don't see how it could be repaired.

and by secondary powerplant, i mean one of the many emergency fusion reactors scattered across the ship.

[LordsofKobol]

posted on December 13th, 2005, 10:06 pm

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I wonder why ships don't explode when the drive plasma is ignited by the nacelle getting shot...I never understood that...I mean, with a sovvies phaser, you can literally cut a galaxy classes nacelles off...it you sit there and do it surgically, seriously, why doesn't it explode?! mg:

EDIT: I did this surgical removal of a nacelle in BC when I had it, was very fun, I used to make one ship allied with me, and just sit there cutting peices off, used to do it with BOPs too

posted on December 13th, 2005, 10:52 pm

when playing BC i always aimed for nacells for example in MP

if i was a BOP or Kvort what ever i would always target nacells i could never be hit by torps and by the end they loose warp drive its fun

[LordsofKobol]

posted on December 13th, 2005, 11:11 pm

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Well, I just had fun surgically remove parts of the ships lmao, like I cut out the deflector dish on a Galaxy, and cut off the triangular dish on the top of a nebula

posted on December 14th, 2005, 12:00 am

its a frakin cube of course it gonna own it

posted on December 14th, 2005, 12:59 am

The Thunderchild was Destroyed fighting the borg, just so you know.
Look.
This claims two akiras are destroyed.
That other ship is Nacelle-less, has a huge rip in the saucer (Which would have depressurized the saucer, and killed the crew no less) And it would be uneconomical to repair it. They didn't repair the USS Enterprise - D did they? And it had less damage (in my oppinion).

posted on December 14th, 2005, 2:14 am

I highly doubt the ship destroyed was the thunderchild, it is the last ship leaving the battle in the scene from what I remember