V3 Borg

posted on January 7th, 2009, 5:08 pm

No way their ships are too strong, if anything the Cube needs to be more powerful, IMO of course. They are fine as they are.

agreed

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:29 pm

Indeed, the cube could use a little buff up. Cubes usually appear when all other races have already buildt their battleships and by then, resistance is not so futile. 

posted on January 7th, 2009, 6:30 pm

Speaking of resistance, has any Borg ship besides the Cube ever been confirmed to adapt to weapons?

posted on January 7th, 2009, 7:19 pm

yeah, i think the sphere in voy episode drone did it.

[Atavax]

posted on January 7th, 2009, 9:41 pm

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my negh'vas with their weapons overload dont really have a problem with cubes endgame, my problem comes from scouts in the beginning where my b'rels are futile.

which reminds me, the Klingons needs a high tier attack ship. Neg-vars are too slow to participate in raids without a cloaking device, which they dont have. the klingons should get either a fast or cloakable or both high tier ship for raids. Right now we mainly just have Lupsets and Vor'chas for offense which are like mid tier and cant really compete against high tier ships. against borg ai i have to wait for them to send their cubes in, destroy them with my Negvars which i can only use for defense, and then use tons of Lupsets and Vorchas for the counter-attack.

btw sorry for butchering the spelling of klingon ship names.

posted on January 8th, 2009, 9:58 pm

my negh'vas with their weapons overload dont really have a problem with cubes endgame, my problem comes from scouts in the beginning where my b'rels are futile.

which reminds me, the Klingons needs a high tier attack ship. Neg-vars are too slow to participate in raids without a cloaking device, which they dont have. the klingons should get either a fast or cloakable or both high tier ship for raids. Right now we mainly just have Lupsets and Vor'chas for offense which are like mid tier and cant really compete against high tier ships. against borg ai i have to wait for them to send their cubes in, destroy them with my Negvars which i can only use for defense, and then use tons of Lupsets and Vorchas for the counter-attack.

btw sorry for butchering the spelling of klingon ship names.

but the klings need to be canon. inventing new ships to suit a strategy wouldnt be fun

posted on January 8th, 2009, 11:02 pm

but the klings need to be canon. inventing new ships to suit a strategy wouldnt be fun

you wouldnt need to invent a new ship....

posted on January 9th, 2009, 2:18 am

cool. so which one are you proposing we use?

posted on January 9th, 2009, 2:26 am

the obvious one would be the D'tai which is basically a huge bird of prey.

posted on January 9th, 2009, 2:46 am

man! That isnt canon per se. It's merely from 1 episode - the DEfector.
It was never even named Dtai. the name comes from fanon.

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The D'tai is one of the more speculative classes. It's existence stems from a single appearence, during TNG's "The Defector". Here we see ships of the familiar Bird of Prey design, but clearly they are much, much bigger than any previous ship of this design. The name D'tai is one I've invented just to give myself something to call this thing, and is a nonsense word which is intended to sound Klingon.

The existence of scaled up or down versions of the Bird of Prey at all is, of course, a subject of some controversy. For details see my articles on scaling issues and the Bird of Prey.

The fact that we've never seen this design depicted at this size again has led me to speculate that there are relatively few of them. I suspect that the Negh'var will be used when a big menacing ship is needed in the future, which is why I've speculated that all these ships have now been lost.
Copyright Graham Kennedy


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Daystrom Institute Technical Library a Star Trek website


For all we know, it was simply a special effect glitch in a season when Kling/Rom sizes weren't determined or finalized.

Not sure if this can qualify as canon.

posted on January 9th, 2009, 4:04 am

im aware of the sources for the D-tai, but it was in a TNG episode no matter what you want to call it and would allow for an additional unit for the klingons, theres no reason not to use it.

posted on January 9th, 2009, 4:08 am

If you want another Klingon ship, why can't we just use the Fek'lhr Class? I mean the SFC3 version, not the A2 one.

posted on January 9th, 2009, 4:29 am

If you want another Klingon ship, why can't we just use the Fek'lhr Class? I mean the SFC3 version, not the A2 one.

because im not a big enough star trek buff to recall it; sure that will work too

posted on January 9th, 2009, 11:43 am

Speaking of resistance, has any Borg ship besides the Cube ever been confirmed to adapt to weapons?

yeah in voyager the sphere diamond and cube. The episode where 7 of 9 get captured.