Make canaveral more useful against Leavhals with more speed

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posted on October 22nd, 2011, 5:15 pm

Last edited by MrXT on October 22nd, 2011, 5:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Myles wrote:who was talking about rhienns? i was very explicit that the rule is leahvals only and see if you can survive. that is what mrxt thinks he can do.

mixed fleets are part of a vastly different discussion.

Actually talking about switching ships is perfectly related to counters.

Just like the spamming of briels vs dodes being relavent to the borg just switching to scubes and winning because you need so many briels to counter a fleet of dodes.

The only early effective counter for lehaval spam currently is bombers and dom are seriously under powered atm anyway so a simple switch and the dom have lost because they need to get out another expensive proto adding more pressure with the raiding your lahevals are doing.

Almost everyone agree that lehevals are currently just too powerful so i dunno why you don't but also dont care because they are confirmed as being fixed so whatever.

Myles

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posted on October 22nd, 2011, 5:29 pm

quote of what you said:

MrXT wrote:currently you dont need to build anything else as a romulans you can just build massive fleets of these lahevals and win

you wanna try deny it?

leahvals on their own fail, just like most spams.

mixing leahvals with other ships is a different discussion, a much more complicated discussion.

MrXT wrote:The only early effective counter for lehaval spam currently is bombers and dom are seriously under powered atm anyway so a simple switch and the dom have lost because they need to get out another expensive proto adding more pressure with the raiding your lahevals are doing.

this is rubbish. breen cruisers have been shown in a replay to stomp leahvals. e2s have a similar effect. you dont know what you are talking about.

Megaman3321

809 posts

posted on October 22nd, 2011, 5:52 pm

However, breen cruisers are far less cost-effective and are higher up on the tech tree. They're also far less cost-effective than bombers. That, and they're really damn slow. Basically, if you go breen against leavhals and win, then that romulan player must have been pretty bad at his job.

E2s? Yep, they hit hard and are a very god counter to leavhals.

Myles

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posted on October 22nd, 2011, 5:57 pm

Megaman3321 wrote:However, breen cruisers are far less cost-effective and are higher up on the tech tree. They're also far less cost-effective than bombers. That, and they're really damn slow. Basically, if you go breen against leavhals and win, then that romulan player must have been pretty bad at his job.

i disagree, bombers are a better counter than breens, but the breens just about get the job done. heavy torps are a problem for leahvals. they are medium sized but dont have huge defence. the leahval only lives for as long as it has energy for auto repair. otherwise they arent tanks.

e2 are damn slow too. but if you play a little more defensively you can mitigate the problem.

MrXT

307 posts

posted on October 22nd, 2011, 6:28 pm

Myles wrote:quote of what you said:

you wanna try deny it?

leahvals on their own fail, just like most spams.

mixing leahvals with other ships is a different discussion, a much more complicated discussion.

this is rubbish. breen cruisers have been shown in a replay to stomp leahvals. e2s have a similar effect. you dont know what you are talking about.

Dunno about breen cruisers but again another effective counter the dom have for them who are under powered agaisnt everything else anyway. Its you that doesnt know what your talking about , the devs are nerfing them what does that say about your opinion, you know nothing and dont play enough to forward an unbiased opinion about this ship.

Dominus_Noctis

Dev Team

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posted on October 22nd, 2011, 6:34 pm

We understand that balancing discussions tend to get heated, but please keep it civil. There is no such thing as an unbiased opinion here.

Leahvals will get some tweaks down the line as the Romulan technology tree is expanded and changed to fit its redo equivalent

Myles

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posted on October 22nd, 2011, 6:43 pm

MrXT wrote:Dunno about breen cruisers but again another effective counter the dom have for them who are under powered agaisnt everything else anyway. Its you that doesnt know what your talking about , the devs are nerfing them what does that say about your opinion, you know nothing and dont play enough to forward an unbiased opinion about this ship.

you're obviously not listening, so keep your opinion, i'm done arguing with you.

Boggz