Ship Names

posted on February 12th, 2012, 12:50 am

these are the two lines that i have added to the tech tree, these are the lines that have stopped the Mckinley yard from being constructed at all?

fed_mckinley_yard.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringZ.odf
fed_mckinley_yard.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringY.odf

posted on February 12th, 2012, 12:57 am

You need a second copy of the McKinley Yard called fed_mckinley_yardZ and that first techtree line needs to have that in it, while the odf (fed_mckinley_yardZ) needs to be in the Mayson Constructor buildlist (fed_mediterraneanZ).

Each ship or station can only have a single list of requirements.

fed_mckinley_yardZ.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringZ.odf
fed_mckinley_yard.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringY.odf

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:00 am

Right i get you now!! I have added the Y and Z to the construction ships, renamed the original odf for the mckinley to a Y but how do i create the Z?

i tried saving copying it and renaming it Z but saved as a text file?

do i make sense?

[Tyler]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:05 am

Last edited by Tyler on February 12th, 2012, 1:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

If you used the Copy/Paste to make a second one, it should be easy to right-click on it and rename it. Making a new one by saving under a new name should require adding .odf when you pick the name to save as.

EDIT: If you change the name of the original to add a Y at the end as well as making a Z-version, make sue they've both got basename = "fed_mckinley_yard" in them; the game wasn't originally made with avatar-specific versions so there won't be sprite entries or sod's for them.

[Drewlew]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:31 am

Last edited by Drewlew on February 12th, 2012, 1:36 am, edited 1 time in total.

Right, the buttons are now showing again, and become active as soon as SF Engineering is built!!!
However - with mason there is no mckinley ( when you press the button for it it says error? and builds and doesnt look correctly!

with risner - the mckinley builds correctly however the ships will not build even with the chasis that i programmed being built?

Edit - i have got the ships for risner building with the corresponding chasis now

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:42 am

As in a floating red/white error build in its place? Either you forgot the basename code or you renamed the sod. The sod must have the sam name as the odf, unless the basename code is used (it tells it to use a different one).

For the ships not building; what ships are in the stations build list and which ones in the techtree did you add a requirement for? The Warp-In versions aren't the ones in the Yards build list, it uses seperate ship odfs with an A at the end.

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:45 am

Basically it has a green overlay and will let you build, but with white error, and the building does not look like the mckinley it looks odd!

I removed the excelsior, rigel and san fran nebula, ambassador - so all the mckinley builds is the Centaur, Yododyne, Rhode isaland refit and the galaxy.

Risners are ending with a B and masons with a A, risners is working perfectly now?

[Tyler]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:47 am

Last edited by Tyler on February 12th, 2012, 1:50 am, edited 1 time in total.

Can you attach a screenshot? That doesn't sound familiar.

Maysons ships have an A at the end? Do they have the basename code or an sod with their name? I assume Risners has one of those, the 'building error' usually means no model is available.

[Drewlew]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:52 am

Last edited by Drewlew on February 12th, 2012, 1:57 am, edited 1 time in total.

Yeah, it builds however and the chasis all work, it will build, however instead of a mckinley yard there is a Error that turn around?

Edit - The Ships will not build with the chasis either?

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posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:57 am

Ah yeas, that seems to be the 'missing sod' one. The basename code should fix that, it just means it has no model to use.

Well, it can also mean the model's not compatible with the game, but that's obviously not the case.

[Drewlew]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 1:59 am

Last edited by Drewlew on February 12th, 2012, 2:07 am, edited 1 time in total.

How? Where? What? Do i need to ammend to sort this? I dont remember messing with a SOD?

Edit - May have sorted it, went into the SOD folder, copied the mckinley yard SOD file and renames it with a Z - trying this now

Edit2 - this worked (cannot believe i worked that one out, with alot of help from you tyler)

posted on February 12th, 2012, 2:16 am

I'm glad it worked, though you don't need to do that everytime; the basename code tells it to use a specific sod instead of looking for one sharing the odfs name.

Good luck with future modding. The FO Guide has a fairly large section on Modding, code and so on. It might be worth a look.

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[Drewlew]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 2:24 am

Last edited by Drewlew on February 12th, 2012, 2:30 am, edited 1 time in total.

One more thing if that is ok?

Or am i ruining your weekend?

I cant seem to get mason mckinley to build the ships that the chasis are corresponding to?

fed_mckinley_yardZ.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringZ.odf
fed_mckinley_yard.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringY.odf

fed_nebula_torpA.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Y.odf
fed_nebula_torpB.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Z.odf

fed_galaxyA.odf 1 fedU_chassis3Y.odf
fed_galaxyB.odf 1 fedU_chassis3Z.odf

fed_centaurA.odf 1 fedU_chassis1Y.odf
fed_centaurB.odf 1 fedU_chassis1Z.odf

fed_rhodeislandA.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Y.odf
fed_rhodeislandB.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Z.odf

posted on February 12th, 2012, 2:41 am

I got nothing going on right now. Besides, I don't mind helping when I can.

The Mayson Chassis Research doesn't have an avatar bonus and can be started without building anything else first, so his don't have a Z-extension. It should just be fedU_chassis2.odf.

[Drewlew]

posted on February 12th, 2012, 3:03 am

Last edited by Drewlew on February 12th, 2012, 3:09 am, edited 1 time in total.

Ok removed the Z extension so they look as follows?

fed_mckinley_yardZ.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringZ.odf
fed_mckinley_yard.odf 1 fed_sf_engineeringY.odf

fed_nebula_torpA.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Y.odf
fed_nebula_torpB.odf 1 fedU_chassis2.odf

fed_galaxyA.odf 1 fedU_chassis3Y.odf
fed_galaxyB.odf 1 fedU_chassis3.odf

fed_centaurA.odf 1 fedU_chassis1Y.odf
fed_centaurB.odf 1 fedU_chassis1.odf

fed_rhodeislandA.odf 1 fedU_chassis2Y.odf
fed_rhodeislandB.odf 1 fedU_chassis2.odf

Still build SFE the mckinley becomes buildable, build chasis level one the centar still wont become buildable?

I tried removing the Z from the First sf_EngineeringZ.odf and the mckinely didnt become buildable when SFE was built?

Any thoughts?