STO Ships

posted on March 6th, 2012, 10:13 pm

Can't you only see the top half in both images...?

the red horribly butchered plasma/disruptor device is visible in the second image. that's underneath the front "saucer"/bridge thing, so i considered it the bottom of the ship.

posted on March 6th, 2012, 10:21 pm

What part of it's butchered? The red color and the glow are canon.

posted on March 6th, 2012, 10:39 pm

What part of it's butchered? The red color and the glow are canon.

well for one the galor appears differently several times in canon. the best/clearest shots clearly are not that bright/vivid red. they are duller red by quite some amount. they don't glow unless firing either:
[img width=300]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070317035160/memoryalpha/en/images/c/c9/Galor_class.jpg[/img]

even in the cgi version they didn't glow nearly as much as the sto version.

but the bigger problem is the shape, they have always been almost square. never long rectangles. anyone with google images can verify that they were not long rectangles. it really looks bad.

the galor is 75% good (pretty good as sto goes), but the 25% they got wrong shows their usual poor treatment of canon design.

i wouldn't mind if they had their own ideas for ship designs, fleetops has its own (sometimes quite radical) ship designs. but going back and trampling on show designs is just rude imo. i get the impression that they feel they have the right to change the show's designs as they feel fit and that they are better in some way.

posted on March 6th, 2012, 11:08 pm

that's to show they purposely had the main power off line.

posted on March 6th, 2012, 11:25 pm

that's to show they purposely had the main power off line.

if you are talking about the image i posted, then why are all the other lights on? also why would they not have power? voyager didn't lose power when they were dragged by the caretaker, just took damage. it wasn't a dampening field.

let's go through the images for fun (click to expand):

red cgi:
[img width=300]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091114185730/memoryalpha/en/images/b/b1/Dominion_forces_wait.jpg[/img][img width=300]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080422004340/memoryalpha/en/images/6/69/Galor_class%2C_weapons_array%2C_forward.jpg[/img]

none of them have bright red glows, the bright glows come from the yellow lazor fire.

not even red:
[img width=200]http://images.wikia.com/startrek/images/9/93/Trager.jpg[/img][img width=200]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070602031749/memoryalpha/en/images/f/fd/Galor_class%2C_weapons_pulse%2C_forward.jpg[/img][img width=200]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080422043008/memoryalpha/en/images/7/7b/Dominion_fires.jpg[/img]

so dull red would be acceptable, bright red not.

long thin rectangles definitely not.

[Tyler]

posted on March 6th, 2012, 11:36 pm

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The one in Sacrifice of Angels wasn't firing, but that one was glowing fairly bright. But then, we all know about Star Trek's stunning record for visual consitency.

posted on March 6th, 2012, 11:41 pm

The one in Sacrifice of Angels wasn't firing, but that one was glowing fairly bright. But then, we all know about Star Trek's stunning record for visual consitency.

[img width=600]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070523173224/memoryalpha/en/images/e/ec/Galor_class%2C_weapons_array%2C_mid-dorsal.jpg[/img]

it can't even stay consistent inside the same image, the galor in the back doesn't have that ridiculous red glow

maybe that one was overheating from constant firing, it appeared to be right on the front line.

[Utopia]

posted on March 6th, 2012, 11:51 pm

Last edited by Utopia on March 6th, 2012, 11:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.

what are you saying Myles? 

[Tyler]

posted on March 7th, 2012, 12:14 am

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Glowing ones seem to be something of a minority, could be something to do with the different types; they did have at least 3 variants by TNG.

posted on March 7th, 2012, 9:31 am

Lt Commander Alesi Lovelock
U.S.S Barrytown
NCC-93495
Crusier

posted on March 7th, 2012, 11:47 am

what are you saying Myles? 

you'll have to be a little bit more specific.

Glowing ones seem to be something of a minority, could be something to do with the different types; they did have at least 3 variants by TNG.

interesting theory, i don't have a counter to that.

even the glowing galor didn't glow as brightly as the sto version though. and the shape was never so bad. i still consider it butchered, just maybe not as much.

posted on March 7th, 2012, 5:23 pm

Well, I got my Star Cruiser last night, and also unpacked my own Galor. Haven't decided which to use yet.

posted on March 7th, 2012, 9:42 pm

even the glowing galor didn't glow as brightly as the sto version though. and the shape was never so bad. i still consider it butchered, just maybe not as much.

STO has more glowing and shining anyways, the canon-designs are looking basically canon in most cases, but with slight alterations (the really big exception actually is the Olympic, which looks very different on nacelles and sphere-section than the U.S.S. Pasteur, however that ship was from an alternate future that never happened to be confirmed anyways).
There are more glows, ships have the fed/kdf or fleet-logo, ships are customizable as well.

posted on March 7th, 2012, 9:53 pm

STO has more glowing and shining anyways, the canon-designs are looking basically canon in most cases, but with slight alterations

i think you and i have vastly different opinions on how far you can stretch the word slight before it breaks. sto has it's own distinct visual style, which some like and some don't. this isn't an sto hate thread, so let's not get into it.

posted on March 7th, 2012, 10:01 pm

i think you and i have vastly different opinions on how far you can stretch the word slight before it breaks. sto has it's own distinct visual style, which some like and some don't. this isn't an sto hate thread, so let's not get into it.

Be surprised or not: Before I actually started playing it, I wasn't very fond of STO either. I expected to not play it for more than the 30-day-trial. Turned out differently though.
Many of the non-canon designs which are based ON canon designs I still don't like (Pheonix-type Prometheus alternative) but thanks to the customization-system you can get any ship to look somehow cool. My U.S.S. Cavalry is the example for "The Intrepid if I had it my way - and I can: On STO!"