Saber or Sabre?

posted on January 6th, 2010, 8:30 pm

Your point?

I believe his point is to illustrate that Starfleet being based in San Francisco means that it is an 'American' organization. However, this point is moot because we have many international organizations like the U.N. whom meet in and or are headquartered in the U.S. ...

[Tyler]

posted on January 6th, 2010, 8:32 pm

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That would also make the Federation French, because the President leads from his office in Paris.

posted on January 6th, 2010, 8:33 pm

That would make the Federation French, because the President leads from his office in Paris.

exactly...

posted on January 6th, 2010, 9:26 pm

Think of it from a mathmatician's standpoint: If A=B , then A can be substituted for B in the given equation, and vice-versa.

[navyguy]

posted on January 6th, 2010, 9:57 pm

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Star Treak is based off of the United States Navy look at the ranks, look at the names of the ships. Starfleet is to what the Navy was to the water. StarFleet is Americian. C.V.N-65 U.S.S. ENTERPRISE you cant get any more Americian than that. Hum YORKTOWN, SARATOGA, LEXINGTON, CONCORD, hum thought they were Americian. How am i an Americian supremist ?. Again Star Treak is based off of the navy, many Star Treak ships are named after Navy ships, and not to be forgotten, the one ship name that started it all ENTERPRISE. We know its based off the Navy, the same Navy wich saved many Allied countries in both World War 2 and 1 , dont forget that!. One thing is for sure we can do with out the U.N.

posted on January 6th, 2010, 10:04 pm

Starfleet is based of Navies in General, Starfleet is Military/Navy/Everything (it did more than Navy work, despite the rank influence), USS Tian An Men and USS ShirKahr are not American.

All American-supremists should learn something about Starfleet; most importantly neither the Federation, nor the Earth Starfleet were ever American!

posted on January 6th, 2010, 10:09 pm

Starfleet is based of Navies in General, Starfleet is Military/Navy/Everything (it did more than Navy work, despite the rank influence), USS Tian An Men and USS ShirKahr are not American.

All American-supremists should learn something about Starfleet; most importantly neither the Federation, nor the Earth Starfleet were ever American!

Indeed: Roddenberry was a Secular Humanist, not an upholder of the military-industrial complex!

[Atlantisbase]

posted on January 6th, 2010, 11:48 pm

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Your point?

It was meant more in jest than anything, don't read too much into it. I realize full well that there are no national boarders on Earth in the Trek universe (at least that we know of, but they do obviously still acknowledge different regions and cultures) and that the Federation and Starfleet are not institutions of any one country.

[Nebula_Class_Ftw]

posted on January 7th, 2010, 2:18 am

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But British people love to moan, it's in our blood. It's so much more fun than just flipping a coin.

For instance, it's all very well pointing out the differences in American versus British spelling. But tell me, if the American spelling is less French and more phonetic (as pointed out by myleswolfers) then why is it that you guys call Phasers "Phasers" and not "Phazers"? After all, you guys analyze instead of analyse and you materialize instead of materialising, so why do your phasers phase and not phaze? I don't get it. :p

Makeeng theengs mor fonetik takes uh laang time, yoo can't doo it varee kwiklee and in maadern times eenglish haz had spelling mor fixt.  As you can see making it more phonetic all at once tends to look silly, don't expect to see the word phazer being common for a laaaaaaaaaaaaaang time.

posted on January 7th, 2010, 10:42 am

Makeeng theengs mor fonetik takes uh laang time, yoo can't doo it varee kwiklee and in maadern times eenglish haz had spelling mor fixt.  As you can see making it more phonetic all at once tends to look silly, don't expect to see the word phazer being common for a laaaaaaaaaaaaaang time.

If I might ask, who the heck talks like that?! XD

And in answer to Syphadeus' question, it's for the same reason Americans don't spell "L.A.S.E.R." as "lazer". Get it?

posted on January 7th, 2010, 12:58 pm

I'MMA CHARGIN MA LAZER!!!!

im sorry i felt the urge 

i once heard that phaser stood for phased energy rectification. phase is one of the few words americans haven't added a Z to.

the federation can't be french, they have never surrendered, although they considered it in an alternate timeline in TNG: Yesterday's Enterprise. and the augments tried it in DS9: Statistical Probabilities. 

posted on January 7th, 2010, 5:32 pm

If I might ask, who the heck talks like that?! XD

And in answer to Syphadeus' question, it's for the same reason Americans don't spell "L.A.S.E.R." as "lazer". Get it?

Um since you put the periods in there im assuming that you know its an acronym. (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation) Also i find it interesting the people say that saber is more American when we have two fighters named Sabre
F-86 Sabre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
F-100 Super Sabre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Tyler]

posted on January 7th, 2010, 6:14 pm

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the same Navy wich saved many Allied countries in both World War 2 and 1 , dont forget that!.

Amusing, someone actually believes Americans can hit something that isn't allied to them... Americans can't save anything except Britain and Americas enemies (NOTE: I'm talking about their Klingon-like love of friendly fire).

Star Treak is based off of the United States Navy look at the ranks, look at the names of the ships. Starfleet is to what the Navy was to the water. StarFleet is Americian. C.V.N-65 U.S.S. ENTERPRISE you cant get any more Americian than that. Hum YORKTOWN, SARATOGA, LEXINGTON, CONCORD, hum thought they were Americian. How am i an Americian supremist ?. Again Star Treak is based off of the navy, many Star Treak ships are named after Navy ships, and not to be forgotten, the one ship name that started it all ENTERPRISE. We know its based off the Navy, the same Navy wich saved many Allied countries in both World War 2 and 1 , dont forget that!. One thing is for sure we can do with out the U.N.

Starfleet ranks are based off Navies (there is more than one in the world, genius). Some Starfleet ships are named after navy ships from America, Britain, Germany, ect (as I said, USS Tian An Men and USS ShirKahr are not named after American things, neither is Yamato). You don't know if Enterprise is named after the ship or the other , more Starfleet-style, meaning (M-W: Readiness to engage in daring or difficult action : initiative ). Again, only the ranks are Navy-like, the rest is a mix of Navy in general, Military and civilian/scientific organisations.

posted on January 7th, 2010, 6:21 pm

The nuke didnt miss

posted on January 7th, 2010, 6:30 pm

Um since you put the periods in there im assuming that you know its an acronym. (Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation) Also i find it interesting the people say that saber is more American when we have two fighters named Sabre
F-86 Sabre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
F-100 Super Sabre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia