Keldon Class

posted on January 11th, 2011, 12:31 am

Well, i think we just saw too few Keldons on the shows. Galors evolved during the shows from a really weak destroyer(TNG and DS9 in the beginning) to a medium/heavy cruiser killing B'Rels and Bugs with one shot(late DS9). In sons and daughters we saw two of them with heavy firepower but slow, while in TNG the Enterprise wasn't damaged although it didn't have shields.
Since even the sizes of ships differ from one episode to another(or even in one episode), it is very hard to say how strong ships really are. I would have liked to see more Keldons.
Concerning weapons: I always thought all the little pyramids on the Galor were disruptors, plus the 3linked disruptor at the front. That would be(looking at my model here ): 15 +1disruptors. I don't think the Keldon has less, presumably there is an additional disruptor on that rucksack.
I know there is little evidence for what I'm mentioning here, but that's the whole problem about the Keldon.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 12:44 am

Galors were destroyers during late DS9, they called them that in Sacrifice of Angels during the final 2 seasons. The power and classification inconsitency of the Galor are justified, unlike most ships, by the known existence of multiple 'types'.

Honestly, I think the Keldon was only really introduced so the Obsidian Order could have ships that wouldn't be mistaken for regular military ones. Would explain why they were so rarely seen and gave no real information about them.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 3:57 am

Considering a Keldon is essentially a Galor with a...thing... attached to its back and bigger tail fins I would think that a keldon would have the same weapon hardpoints as the Galor. I always got the impression a Keldon was an uprated Galor, not weaker. And just because an epidsode doesnt show it using more then 2 weapons at a time doesnt mean it only has 2.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 3:59 am

According to Matt Jefferies article in star trek magazine, cardassian galor classes are destroyers in the TNG and DS9 era and cruisers in the pre-TNG post-TMP era. Galors are a bit outmatched by the cruisers of other empires, thats why Galor class patrols always consist of 3 Galors. 3 Galors could easily overpower an excelsior class heavy cruiser. The problem is that cardassia could not keep up with the advanced ship design war of the other empires ( resources are scarce in the Union ) and the Galor fell behind. Upgraded with powerful Spiral wave disruptors and patroling in three's helped the galors defeat the better nebula class and vor'cha class cruisers. The Keldon class is just an upgraded Galor. It has an added section on the back for increased troop capacity, added shield generators ( the extra fins on the back), larger engines, and a few added weapons. But keldon upgrases are rare, thats why you see so few on screen. The hideki is actually the newest cardassian ship, developed and put in production during the DS9 era. Some sources say the hideki was an attempt to produce a ship using designs based on the federation Defiant Class. Other resources that have great info are the DS9 tech manual, star trek starship spotter and old copies of star trek magazine.

[navyguy]

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:02 am

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The Keldon with its Spiral Wave disruptor's is that the same as a romulan disruptor?, and she doesnt carry any torpedos?. The old Galor Class is more than a match for an Excelscior, but not the other's hence that's were the Keldon comes in. What advanage does a Spiral Wave Disruptor have over the standard phaser? Ireally like the look's of the Cardassian ship's.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 11:07 am

well star trek is rather Incontinent with ships and what they can do and cant do, and what they can best in a fight and what they stand no chance against. eg Sacrifice of Angels in the battle ships fight but there is no shield effects. when they are shot just direct hull damage. but the defiant can be shot many many times and shields are reported by someone on the bridge as at ....? 45 % ....then 32% and so on.... so how strong is a keldon class ....well that depends on how much money they want to spend on CGI and how dramatic the battle is going to be ..........but all that aside i think that the keldon is an attempt to add some fire power to the cardassian fleet and its kinda a galor refit with more hull perhaps for troops or more science area for research missions or for more long range missions well who knows.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 12:40 pm

well star trek is rather Incontinent

ahem, i dont think you mean incontinent, maybe inconsistent?

well star trek stories sometimes dont hold water...

[Tyler]

posted on January 11th, 2011, 2:43 pm

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Galor Class weren't inconsitent, they had multiple varients, each of which would have been more advanced and powerful than the last. At least 3 were known.

Guess we'll never know, but I always see it as a seperate class just like the multiple identical BoP's.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:30 pm

Star Trek is incontinent  .
I just wanted to add(because someone asked): Cardassian ships never had torpedoes!!! I hate it that they get some in every Computer game . I hope when FO introduces them they won't get torpedoes! Cardies have great disruptors(no connection to Romulans... Following "Generations" Roms, Klingons and Breen seem to have similar disruptorweaponry, Cardassians' are different), I guess they don't need torps.

[Tyler]

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:36 pm

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It's not like torpedoes are alien to the Cardassians, they have been seen to be willing to use them in canon. Though I don't recall ever seeing them on anything other than the Dreadnought Missile (Cardassian Quantum torpedoes?) or Orbital Weapon Platforms (1000 Plasma torpedoes).

I don't mind them having them in FO; with Starfleet helping them rebuild in the future, it wouldn't be odd that they have been influenced by them into some refits. Just not common or on specific varients of their ships.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:45 pm

how did they fit 1000 torps in a orbital platform anyway?

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:46 pm

Probably micro-torps.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:48 pm

They're plasma torpedeos. Think fusion weaponry; they'd probably act like gigantic nukes, and since space is a vacuum, it doesn't need containment. All that you need is a particle accelerator or something, and you could get a compacted ball of plasma that upon impact detonates. They also probably store the atoms in a liquid or solid state, assuming that they can be changed in state aside from plasma.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:51 pm

Plasma doesn't, the shell does.

posted on January 11th, 2011, 7:54 pm

indeed, plasma torps are easy to fuel from plasma from engine stocks but the casings are similar sized to photons.