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posted on April 27th, 2007, 3:23 am
Well should I start quoting all your posts?  You stated how bloody and horrific the Bible is, that is a huge snap against God and Christianity, should I stop now or should I also bring up how you said God was causing mass genocide, thats nothing; if you do believe in God dyeing is nothing in this life and what counts is what happens this life and when you step into the next.  I like just about all religions because I know a bit from them all and know what they want their "followers" to do, Islam is what people like to call a radical religion, its a religion that can be manipulated easily because the Koran has a lot of blood and a lot of fighting for Allah and it praises martyrdom but it is still a religion that preaches to not start wars or even fights with anyone else.  Some people do misuse the words of different religions but that is in no way to slander a religion in any degree, if you do that you are breaking U.S. Law; but our government is so messed up now I want to move to another country soon, not sure which one.  And no, I'm not saying Bush is screwing it all up, I'm saying after the Imus incident you find out how much black people hate white people, lol, what a lot of people don't know is instead of just racism there is also reverse racism which is when the people being persecuted are racist of the persecutors and seek "justice" which is actually retribution for what happened to them before the persecutors started to live peacefully with the persecuted.  And the democrats say hey a black or Hispanic or any other man can say cracker to a white man and its not against the law while a white man can't say something like Negro too a black man without going to jail and paying fines too the black man he just "offended."  I just think its funny and stupid, thats all.  :lol:
posted on April 27th, 2007, 6:01 am
I have news for you the last time globule worming got as bad as this was when the dinosaur's died off. Thar is nothing convent about global worming. 

How would iron or nickel make ice melt?

Well you can tell that to the people in the new Orleans or the people how have died for beard flew and sairs. You can tell that to the people how loss their home to fortifiers in the mid west you can tell that to the people how live in upstate new york hows homes are under watter and the people how die of wars in Africa because  the people are fighting over remaining resores.

Know matter what deletions you scribe to if the climet gets a bit hotter it set off a chance reaction that will make shere that the earth gose in to a wears case scenario.

Umm its happoning now. It only takes a cupol of degrees above normal to kill count less numbers of people and wiled life.

Well nor way is way ahead of us that have  made a noways ark of sorts. They have stock piled seads from every kind of plant life they could and have froze them in a volt under a mouton if theirs any one left thay can start over.

I guess you have not herd of the trapped methane's under the sea their is a nuff oder the sea to wipe every living thing out. the hotter it gets the more likely the methane will be retested. 
posted on April 27th, 2007, 8:16 am
Lol, first the iron nickel core actually protects use against the sun which is called the magnetosphere, this sphere fluctuates and changes and every so often it changes in the degrees a tiny bit than changes back and the scientists found that this is part of the reason why this is occurring, true humans have helped the process but its a natural process the earth goes through.  The incident in New Orleans was bad planning from their government and their aged pump systems didn't help much and by the way did you know New Orleans is under sea level?  And African have been in countless wars for the past two thousand years, can we have been polluting the world with methane and other chemicals two thousand years ago?  Well the New York Incident just shows my point, I didn't say nothing would happen but the changes will be gradual.  What you said about getting hotter and the worst case scenario that makes no sense, lets say the worst case scenario is it gets so hot that it melts the metal around all the nuclear devices around the world and they all blow up, thats a pretty bad scenario.  Or lets say some guy gets so hot that he goes insane and buys a nuke through North Korea and nukes a city in the U.S. that would be bad.  All these scenarios and the fictional scenario you stated have just about no chance of happening.  And it will only get hotter in different areas and colder in others, the climate all over the world isn't changing, the ice melting is changing the concentration of salt water in the oceans that support the fronts that support our wind systems and climates.  The climates are just shifting, which is a big ordeal but it isn't the end of the world.  and methane has a melting point of -296.5 F and a boiling point of -258.88 F so I doubt a couple degrees up or down would make much of a difference.  Well norway is going to get hit pretty hard by a climate shift because if the climate is shifting it will get warmer over there and much of Norway is ice so...they should be a little worried.  They will just need to be relocated before any real damage occurs and brought back after most of the climate has changed into its proper state.  Much of the information of the global warming is half truths, ya there is methane below some ice shelfs but it is few, in a few areas it is a little large and methane gas will just hybridize with water or other molecules that like to stick too other molecules.  O, and the dinosaurs died off from an asteroid that impacted the earth in the south-eastern part of the Gulf of Mexico.  what you should be worried about is an asteroid heading towards us, that actually has a chance to wipe us out without us even able to stop it now.  The name of the asteroid if Apophus, look it up in wikipedia or another good site, it will get very close to us in 2036 and has a pretty good chance of hitting us, its not a 50% chance or even a 1% chance but its a larger chance than everyone dieing from a climate shift.  Just learn about the principles of what is happening and make your own decisions and if you need help try to find the answers on accredited educational sites so you can further your knowledge in the subjects you are interested in.  :assimilate:  Just an FYI but did you know scientists have proof that humanity has been on earth for barely one hundred thousand years, not the millions of years evolution tells us we have been.  This is a little higher up in biology class but basically each generation of a species get a certain amount of deletions and modifications in their genetic code in the lines of data on the Deoxyribonucleic Acid chain, DNA.  And they found the percentage of deletions and modifications per generation and found the percentage of deletions of average people around the globe and they found the deletions and modifications add up too about one hundred thousand years, just something that is a little interesting.  :thumbsup:
posted on April 27th, 2007, 4:10 pm
ewm, are you going to reply to this or not?!

RedShirt wrote:Heathen!  :lol:

Anyway, can I expect a reply to... this?

RedShirt wrote:Forget the placeholder post...

ewm90 wrote:I was not ignoring you I just replayed to how ever replayed last because replaying take so darn long lol.


No, I meant that I wasn't sure who's post you were addressing.

2. Merak is a corporation even know they are defined as a person they do not have a hart.


*sigh*

You KNOW what I mean, ewm...

Just because Merck is a corporation doesn't excuse a money-making ploy that could put children at risk!

3. LOL I could make this a full time job.


Indeed.  But you didn't actually address my point.

Now be kind and do so.


Not true I am a cerintion if I like it or now and I go to church ones in a blue moon some church some what get it.


I'm not sure what this was referring to.  If it's referring to the same thing as the previous quote, than it still didn't touch on my point.

From Quote: I think they thot whey where as much as the conservative part buleave that they can abuse the creation community as much as thay wont to get votes.


Umm, if you count that as "abuse", than every single person who appeals to any group for votes is an abuser.

Unfortunately, that means that every politician, political activist, every interest gruop, and every person even remotely involved with politics is guilty of abusing as well.

And that just doesn't fly.

Well maybe ones of these you will take of the bear goggles. That make every body look like their only motivation is to do good... Crupt positions lives for people like you. This is the true world we live in.


I'm sorry, but that made little sense, and none whatsoever if taken with the point that it's supposedly addressing.

Perhaps if you clarify what you mean I'll be able to reply.

"Bear goggles"??

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Meany people in the bible belt  are not all that knowledgeable about the bible.


Ironic, isn't it?

However, of no relevance to any point we're discussing.

Meany people to day are being lied to again by their religious leaders Jews/Cerictions/Muslims.


Indeed they are.

Does that mean that every "religious leader" is a liar?

No.

I for one cant call whats going on to day creation ether.


Please clarify what you mean.


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I have a fogy understanding of the bible anuff to know its a relay bloody book with lots of hummer that was ration for a nether time its clear how ever made it did not intend for it to be any where as influentials as it is now. 

It may surprise you that I just resonantly took a introductory class on the book with my paster. My church http://www.stmarks.net/. From the class with the help of the paster I found how condory dictory the book is.


Is it contradictory?

Where?

If you would be kind enough to show me where you believe it to be contradictory, than I can show you what my opinion is on it.

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agreed. - It will also surprise you that my dance instructor is going to seminary and is going to work as a missionary in Africa wile she is trained.


To be perfectly honest, I'm more surprised that you're taking dance.

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Thar should not be a balents they should leave each other alone. 


That is a naïve opinion.

Quite simply, they can't.

As long as people complain about public displays of faith/religion (which is protected under the constitution) by saying that it violates the separation of church and state, than they can never "leave each other alone".

However, if people simply tolerated other's displays instead of making a fuss, that I suppose they could actually co-exist in peace.


ewm90 wrote:
Well my paster of my chearch agrees that it is relay relay bloody and full of sultry jokes. But like any thing made in that area you must keep the time it was made in mind.


I'm interested in knowing exactly how your pastor thinks a person can enter heaven.

You can tell me his opinion on that, can't you?

Love you nabber than commit mass genocide - Knowa and the ark, sodam and Gamora Bering entire city's populations to death, drowning army's parting of the sea, their Eberhame and Isac, and more.


The bible never puts down criteria for us to kill people.

That's God's job.  He created us, so it only follows that he can destroy us as well.

ewm90 wrote:Well 1st I am not waging war on the religion I am relay mad at the way it is used to day and in the past. + I am offering a option which I can not get the feed back like I get on here seeing I live in a place whare people share simaler blueffs. We are all adults here If this thread bothers you don't read it problem solved.


I suppose I agree.  Many people have used religion for there own ends in the past and continue to do it today.

That's my I don't practice religion.

What I have is faith.  It's not about me, it's about Him.

I will not keep Jesus out of it. He is so inflinchal on the way my country think it is very necessary to talk about him.


ewm, I'm interested in hearing your opinion on the Bible verse John 3:16.  You will be kind enough to oblige me in this, won't you?

God Bless


May He bless you as well.


~Red




Now, for my reply:


ewm90 wrote:I have news for you the last time globule worming got as bad as this was when the dinosaur's died off. Thar is nothing convent about global worming. 


Ummm, no.

The last time was in the middle ages, when many Kingdoms prospered and grapes grew in England.

Well you can tell that to the people in the new Orleans or the people how have died for beard flew and sairs. You can tell that to the people how loss their home to fortifiers in the mid west you can tell that to the people how live in upstate new york hows homes are under watter and the people how die of wars in Africa because  the people are fighting over remaining resores.


Don't be a fool, ewm.  Natural disasters have always happened and wil continue to happen, without any human support.

To blame humanity for a natural disaster without actually looking at both sides and considering all the facts (neither of which you have done- that much is obvious) is just plain foolish.

Know matter what deletions you scribe to if the climet gets a bit hotter it set off a chance reaction that will make shere that the earth gose in to a wears case scenario.


Well then, you'd better get ready for that "wears case scenario"[sic] because the temperature is still gonna rise even if every human force on the planet simply stops.

Why?  Because the problem isn't us.

We add to it, sure.  Not much, though.

But we don't cause it.  We need more research to find out exactly what does, but we know enough to realize that the 'carbon dioxide is causing global warming' thing is complete crap.

Did you ever watch the video in my sig, ewm?

Whether you have or not, I encourage you to watch it again with "an open mind, not one closed by belief", like you say in your sig.

Umm its happoning now. It only takes a cupol of degrees above normal to kill count less numbers of people and wiled life.


Of course.  It's happened like this countless times over the history of the earth, and compared to many ours is just a hiccup.

What makes ours so different?

Well nor way is way ahead of us that have  made a noways ark of sorts. They have stock piled seads from every kind of plant life they could and have froze them in a volt under a mouton if theirs any one left thay can start over.


I believe this is a good idea, global warming or not.

Who knows what the science of the future could do with a complete record of life on earth?

I guess you have not herd of the trapped methane's under the sea their is a nuff oder the sea to wipe every living thing out. the hotter it gets the more likely the methane will be retested. 


I have not heard of it, but it has been hotter many many times in the past; why didn't life on earth get wiped out then?



@ Prowannabe:

No offense man, but your posts would be a whole lot easier to take in if you broke them up into sections.

And quoting what you reply to would be nice.

That goes for you, too, ewm.
posted on April 27th, 2007, 9:21 pm
Last edited by ewm90 on April 28th, 2007, 11:15 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ummm, no.

The last time was in the middle ages, when many Kingdoms prospered and grapes grew in England.


The middle where colder not wormer that had some kind of ash in the sky that blocked out the sun. They where effected by globule dimming not global worming.

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Don't be a fool, ewm.  Natural disasters have always happened and wil continue to happen, without any human support.

To blame humanity for a natural disaster without actually looking at both sides and considering all the facts (neither of which you have done- that much is obvious) is just plain foolish.




But at the rate that they are acering in unprecedented we are seeing many new cases of small pocks and mulerea that have mutated and the old drugs will not work. the earth is terning in to a huge petredish.

The rage and scope of the fires in the mid west is much larger than they have bean in the past be cuss of dry and rain deprived areas. There is much more full for them now.

Flooding has incrested because globule dimming that we still have going, mainly from jet that lay fake cloud like stretchers (intraline)  that collect musher and make it rain to soon be for the clouds get in land whare thay are needed.

As you can see I have don lot of research on the subject.

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Well then, you'd better get ready for that "wears case scenario"[sic] because the temperature is still gonna rise even if every human force on the planet simply stops.

Why?  Because the problem isn't us.

We add to it, sure.  Not much, though.

But we don't cause it.  We need more research to find out exactly what does, but we know enough to realize that the 'carbon dioxide is causing global warming' thing is complete crap.

Did you ever watch the video in my sig, ewm?

Whether you have or not, I encourage you to watch it again with "an open mind, not one closed by belief", like you say in your sig.

You mean death and the extinction of the human race?

Why what evidents do you have that the problem is not us. I can give you lots evidents that the problem is us. including thousands recherches/sinetests from all over the world that have come out very publicly can said the earth is getting wormer and that it is directly cosed by US. I can only find one discreeted sintest that says is a normal event. I am shock I am that their are still people how think that the earth from some strange reason is not geting wormer because of the human race. We are loosing time here!

  The leval of cabin in the sky is hire than any time except for the exhaustion of the dinosaurs. the leval of carbin we are pumping in the the sky is consestint to what is couse globule worming.

Yes I did there have bean some new devilments/findings scents it was perdusted its getting grimmer and grimmer.

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Of course.  It's happened like this countless times over the history of the earth, and compared to many ours is just a hiccup.

What makes ours so different?


Not like this

The sheer leave of cordon and heat we are experiencing. and the risk of a wrest case scenario.

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I believe this is a good idea, global warming or not.

Who knows what the science of the future could do with a complete record of life on earth?


What about whats happening now. their are many threats to the environment and human helth cosed by human Globule worming and the exhaustion of bees are the most critical.

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I have not heard of it, but it has been hotter many many times in the past; why didn't life on earth get wiped out then?


Agin it has not gotten this hot be for and the methane levals are hyer than ever before. methane comes from things that die there body's leach methane in in the grown there are methane deposits all over but nuthing like the ones under the sea.

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I do brake my posts up... I ether add numbers or --- to separate points.
posted on April 27th, 2007, 11:24 pm
ewm, do you think you could quote what you're replying to?

It's very hard to respond when I'm not sure what I'm responding to.

(helpful tip: when you're replying and it shows previous posts below, you have the option to add quotes into your post, and it's not that hard to brake them up.)

If you could fix up your above post with quotes, it will be easier so that way I can point out all the points which you did NOT reply on.
posted on May 6th, 2007, 6:07 am
ewm90 a lot of the information humanity as a whole, meaning everything, is still but only a few thousand years, humanity has only been on this world in an intellectual capacity for only a few thousand years meaning written history so there is almost no information about what has happened before and even if there was from the past few thousand years it would still not compare to the 4.6 billion years the earth has been around.  Its just not smart to be making all these "hypotheses" about something you have almost no true primary evidence on.  For example, its like looking at a pendulum for a small fraction of time lets say 1 second and stating the pendulum only moves this direction at this speed and its because we made it or something just because we are there, but in fact the pendulum doesn't just move this direction but it also moves back and forth, this is what the world does.  A lot of the evidence the scientists for global warming states the worlds global climate is changing all over the place and one of these changes is the increase in temperature up north which is making some of the ice shelves to melt which is putting more water into the ocean which is going to raise the global oceans enough to make millions of people homeless because they are under sea level.  These scientists are also stating that these "disasters" are caused by us because we have "hurt" global way of things because we have all of these automobiles and factories and other things that "pollute" the environment;  these scientists are stating we are the ones to blame because of two reasons; first, we are the dominant life form on the planet and thus responsible for this and second of all because they want international governments to do something about the global climate changes which by the way is impossible to change without actually destroying the current ecosystems on the planet.  After you learn a bit from biology you find out that after everything man has done life finds a way, if you believe in evolution which you stated before you did than the earth and everything on the earth will evolve to maintain homeostasis.  And do you know why we have storms and different "disasters"; its because they are caused from an imbalance in something, it doesn't really matter what but its something which causes the climate to create a counterforce to stabilize the imbalance.  Sorry its a little more "scientific" than I wanted to divulge but many people including governments which you stated before on one of your earlier posts are ignorant of most things that are scientific.  Please quote something by using the quote command on the right side of the persons post display, if you didn't know that I don't blame you because I didn't know that the first few times I posted.  But it is in no way allowed that you try to quote something someone else wrote and changing it which you did on your last post which is very...untrustworthy, so if you need to quote just use the option I mentioned above.  All you have stated in your last post is that the climates around the world is changing which I stated and support but you still have not given me actually evidence that humanity is the cause why the world is changing so "rapidly".  Sorry I write too much. :blush: O, and please change your post box image of the current president, its just wrong to try to put your whole political ideology in this place of Star Trek, true it might fit in this forum but it does not fit in the forums that are based on Star Trek and the current modification or should I say overhaul of ST:Armada 2.  And please just give me some glint of an open mind or I will need to cease communications because it will just be a waste of time for me to try to educate you of a few topics you don't quite understand while you are basically spitting in my face and trying to block out everything I and others in this forum have tried to speak to you about.  I have an open mind of what you say and research what you say even though how different it is from me and how I go about things because I consider other people as equals and think they have something to give even though how crazy I might think it is.  O, and the reason why there are more strains of viruses and other illnesses isn't because of global warming, its because of the medications we used and use currently in curing the illnesses we have, had and had not gotten.  We use medications now more than ever, a hundred years ago there was almost no trace of "modern" medicine and people died in the 50's to 70's while now we have a huge amount of different medications and people are living in the 80's to even 100's now even with these new hybridizations of our current "deadly" viruses and bacteria, the viruses and bacteria are just evolving because we know how to kill them and they need to evolve or die.  Things are not how they seem, even too me; I think I am but just a little pawn, if that, in a greater story far surpassing each and every humans intelligence and imagination which is why I believe in a higher power.  I don't actually think anyone is right in a sense because we all don't have all the information and thus no actual basis on what we say and what we know is only part of the whole picture.  What you find out in knowledge is that with every answer there comes ten new questions.  :crybaby: Way too long this time, sorry about that.  :pinch:
posted on May 6th, 2007, 12:43 pm
Prowannabe That is to much can you brake it up and shorten it thanks.
posted on May 7th, 2007, 5:41 am
Ok, sorry its a little big, well not really that big...but basically I disproved everything you stated on your latest post and talked about your miss quotes and I also explained how to quote something.  O, and I also gave some proven examples why your ideology in your latest post is incorrect.  That sums it all up, short and sweet.  O, and I also stated and gave examples why global warming is just a farce cooked up by a few scientist to get funding into their areas of science.
posted on May 7th, 2007, 9:35 pm
NP

Every thing? I bet you wach Fox news for all your information it is consiter a propganda tool by all most every news out fit in the world and it has no creibilaty. You can get more infomation by buying slezzy tablodes at the maret.

Can you parifrase you egsampuls I am dyslexic and suffer from reading fattege f I read to much and unfocintly that page and 1/2 counts as to much.

Ummm no thare in only like 2 sientests that do not bleeve that globle worming is happing and thay both are not takin very serisly. Globle worming is very real here is your proof.

http://www.climatecrisis.net/thescience/

http://www.net.org/warming/stills.html

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004 ... arctic.htm

http://nicholnl.wcp.muohio.edu/Chemistr ... dex06.html

http://www.worldproutassembly.org/archi ... limat.html

http://www.joanneum.at/climate/

http://www.aecb.net/climatechange.php

http://www.cbmjournal.com/content/1/1/2/figure/F3

http://www.sedgefield.gov.uk/ccm/conten ... 7D.tomcat1
posted on May 7th, 2007, 10:40 pm
there are not 2 scientists ewm.  thats BS
posted on May 7th, 2007, 10:48 pm
I think one is not real consitered a sientest.
posted on May 7th, 2007, 10:59 pm
If I was a weaker man I would run out screaming! I can't even believe this argument is still going on. Despite what prowannabe or any others wish to say NONE of you have ANY power behind your words. It may make you feel big to state "global warming doesn't exist" or some other bs statement but you have no bearning: having never done any research of your own (I'm not talking about looking up something on wikipedia) you have got to open your eyes and see that the world has moved on. Global warming is a theory, gravity is a theory, the universe and you and I are theories. While there may always be room for error on these theories, the "truth" (that word is a stupid one) is that you may choose to disagree because of personal beliefs (for example I believe in the Pink Unicorn and the Invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster) but it does not make a damn bit of difference. (By the way a theory is a statement which has enough evidence behind it to be accepted and no evidence to reject it) I can believe the world is flat: but it doesn't make it so. Cold hard facts are all that count and opinions mean nothing in the long run. You show me some actual proof that something is not the case and will turn it over in my brain, but for the love of your own sanity don't stick by something to the bitter end without having looked at quantifiable results.
Flame on
-DN
posted on May 8th, 2007, 12:08 am
You hurt my feelings.  But i bet you hurt ewms more so were good  :D
posted on May 8th, 2007, 4:53 am
Dominus_Noctis wrote:If I was a weaker man I would run out screaming! I can't even believe this argument is still going on. Despite what prowannabe or any others wish to say NONE of you have ANY power behind your words. It may make you feel big to state "global warming doesn't exist" or some other bs statement but you have no bearning: having never done any research of your own (I'm not talking about looking up something on wikipedia) you have got to open your eyes and see that the world has moved on. Global warming is a theory, gravity is a theory, the universe and you and I are theories. While there may always be room for error on these theories, the "truth" (that word is a stupid one) is that you may choose to disagree because of personal beliefs (for example I believe in the Pink Unicorn and the Invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster) but it does not make a damn bit of difference. (By the way a theory is a statement which has enough evidence behind it to be accepted and no evidence to reject it) I can believe the world is flat: but it doesn't make it so. Cold hard facts are all that count and opinions mean nothing in the long run. You show me some actual proof that something is not the case and will turn it over in my brain, but for the love of your own sanity don't stick by something to the bitter end without having looked at quantifiable results.
Flame on
-DN
The reson the ( Debate ) is going on is becuse I wont it to.

Well I have facts thats all I need.

Wicapeda is not fact it is option. Its edited by any and ever smuck how wonts to. Look it up from sites that have some integrity. Gravity is a fact if you don't buleve me jump out your window and you may see I am telling the truth unless you die.

Well bush would love you to believe theirs no such thing as truth but god gave some of us brians so we can find the facts.

About the unicorn.. I am not shear what to make of that....... do you see some one?

What eever your smoking can I have some?
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