Columbia vs Chavez

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posted on March 12th, 2008, 1:52 pm
Last edited by Anonymous on March 12th, 2008, 2:06 pm, edited 1 time in total.
To rephrase -
Why you people keep bitching about Chavez is beyond surreal!
Try to discuss things like why over half the US population is compelled to pay taxes first, and get to cover themselves with proper medical insurance only in the event of a windfall. (seems we all need well paved roads when we keel over with untreated Cardiac disease)
Try discussing why manufacturing jobs are going overseas, every top financial institution here on Wall Street warn that the US is IN a recession, and yet we have a red neck Pres who days that everything is peachy.
Try to discuss why oil hits $107 when there is no supply deficit and no real demonstrated demand increase - outside speculation on oil futures.
Try to discuss why wire tapping, and mad Evangicals sending children to Jesus camp are part of a society that calls itself democratic.

Secondly, comparing Columbian rebels to Afghanistan is an analogy one can only have gleaned from as ridiculous and egocentrically confined a source as FOX News.

Bottom line - let's get our own house in order before trying to judge other countries and their leaders, and at least think before raising ridiculously irrelevant analogies with events half a world away which don't even remotely resemble the situation in South America.

I hope this was clear enough. do let us know if you require more lucidity.
posted on March 12th, 2008, 11:35 pm
I think I mostly agree with you on this one Serpicus  :D ... although it is always hard to not judge other countries and leaders, when they judge "us"....but maybe that judgment is deserved  :whistling:

U.S.A political system needs a revision (executive is too strong, for one)
posted on March 13th, 2008, 2:49 pm
I agree too,

But talk is talk and actions are actions. You may say to your self I am only one man or woman and I cant do eany thing about it thats not true.

Thare is a key to geting to a point in ones life whare one can live his or her dreams and that is some thing that most people dont have accese too. Most people live a live of cynicism and resignation and live in to a all most cretin further.

Thare is a way to learn to brack past circumstance and live the life you love.

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If you wont to live your what you speek of take the Landmark forum.

You could be powerfull anoff to alter the relationship of south and cereal american to the US of A. Yes you can!
posted on March 20th, 2008, 7:16 am
I, as a single person most likely will not be able to change things for the better; however, I have no intention of leaving it any worse off then the sorry state I found it in. that's all i can or anyone else can promise. though, once in a while a good person in the right place at the right time can make an impresion for good or for worse. you just have to trust said person to do the right thing when that time comes. JMHO
posted on March 20th, 2008, 4:50 pm
What if martin loather king said that.

But you are right that you as you are now cant do much with out seeing your own power.

Landmark Education company that is detected to helping people change the tunnel vision that most people see the world. Every person no matter there back round has the ability to alter life for man kind. The only people Landmark education dose not take are those how have dehabilitating mental illness.

Be for taking the Landmark Forum I was domed to live a almost sermon life. The Landmark Forum gave me the ability to see that ability to change that and to offer it to others.

Be for the Landmark Forum I was very different person I have a jerk with out know it to throws I loved killing of any hope for possibilities or more. Example, My mom is a person how has a alcoholic problem and I saw her as a alcoholic witch for me mint the level of trust I gave her was small and we often had verbal fits. After the Landmark Forum I got my mother back! I am all most moved to tears thinking about it.

By getting a relation ship with my mom give the the ability not to be a victim of a scission and to focus my energy on helping others.

Casper wrote:I, as a single person most likely will not be able to change things for the better; however, I have no intention of leaving it any worse off then the sorry state I found it in. that's all i can or anyone else can promise. though, once in a while a good person in the right place at the right time can make an impresion for good or for worse. you just have to trust said person to do the right thing when that time comes. JMHO
posted on March 20th, 2008, 10:15 pm
there’s a second part of my little speech i left out on purpose. Just wanted to see if anyone other than me would point it out. should i just come out and say it? or wait to see if anyone can guess what i'm thinking?
posted on March 20th, 2008, 10:19 pm
Why not just say it what are you scared of?
posted on March 20th, 2008, 10:32 pm
ok, fine :sweatdrop:

as i said before, a single person usually can't change the world; however, a small group of people can change their backyard (figuratively speaking), if groups of people improve their backyards -- slowly the world can change. most likely such wide-ranging effects will not start to bear fruit until sometime after our own lifetimes have come and gone. the problem here in lies with the fact most people won't bother making said efforts because they can't see those changes with their own eyes. most people seem to lack foresight i guess.
posted on March 20th, 2008, 11:25 pm
In a small group Therese all most always a leader witch do you chose to be a yeas man or a leader?

The resin most people wont is because they are not inspired to work and thats what a leader dose inspires and giddies others.

Nelson Manuela saw this and changed the world and he is not different from you! He made the chose to inspire others.
posted on March 21st, 2008, 12:55 am
i'm not really a leader type. i'm more like the speech-writer/idea-man type. logic and thought, but not action... er, usually.
posted on March 21st, 2008, 3:40 am
would you like to be you could of if not just use what you lean you live the life of your dreams.
posted on March 21st, 2008, 10:49 pm
i also lack ambition. and my life is quite pleasant atm.
posted on March 22nd, 2008, 3:27 am
At the end of your life will you be compleet to tell your self I live my life small and safe. Is that all you wont?... You could relay make a difrants.

Infact I know you do other wise you would not be posting here. Its not comfert you are feeling its a lack of power, If you tasted it you would wont more and with what the Landmark Forum gives you could learn some thing most people in power do not get responsabilaty, integraty, enrolement and haw to inspier others.

Liveing small and safe is comfterbule its allso small and ingsanifact, You where given life you it dont wast it life its to perishes and rare.

You cant tell me if you could feed a sarving person you whould not do so becose it reqieres efert. Well what if I told you you could feed that person and meny more with littal to no efert. Its true its the same power that Muhotma Mohodes Gondi use to help inpower his people.
posted on March 22nd, 2008, 6:10 am
Look how many people pick up an AK47 and waste their lives and ours trying to 'make a difference', do they succeed? No, they just dig themselves a deeper hole.

If everyone was a leader, we'd argue even more, and you encouraging him to be a leader is making him a follower, if you catch my logic. I'm personally happy being small and safe, but if my small and safe is threatened so help me god I will make a difference. And I think he feels similar.

Everyone has ambition, and everyone leads in a different way, with 6 Billion plus individuals on this Earth, how many names do you know? How many have made a difference?

Now, an easy way to help children.

FreeRice
posted on March 22nd, 2008, 3:39 pm
Chavez is a dumb monkey, a socialist dictator wannabe, people like him believes that civil liberties and rights are a tool of the "evil burgueois class" to dominate the "people", its just another Castro, another Allende, the only difference is that he have oil money to keep his economic reforms going, without it the country would already crashed.

The conflict happened between ECUADOR and COLOMBIA....... Chavez just got in the middle without reason.

And lets not forget that the FARC members that were killed in the colombian strike were known killers and kidnappers.

I say go president Uribe!  :thumbsup:
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