Alright those of you who don't live in North America...
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posted on January 10th, 2011, 7:56 am
Tyler wrote:I think the point of that post was 'Americans play foreign sports, so why can't foreigners play American ones'? The American habit of liking those sports coming originally from Britain opposes the 'America for Americans' part as hypocrisy.
At least, that's how it seems to me.
Well, leaving the crazies out of it, what the whole america for americans arguement boils down to is 'quit trying to turn us into you'.
It's in the past sprung up during large periods of immigration, mostly from dicks looking for someone to blame for their own failings, or someone to pick on.
About the only time it's been semi relevent is when folks come here, and refuse to act like they're out of the old country and adapt (that stuff usualy ends in their kids causing them greif when the kids grow up american).
I only really agree with the sentiment so far as to the fact that they need to actually adapt. My moms side of the family came in in the 20s and did quite well. But I also know folks IRL who are first generation, whose parents refuse to adapt, and have endless trouble from that.
Of coruse I also know folks whose families events I try to find a way to get invited to whenever possible, because theyre fun to be arround, and the foods and what not from the 'old country' for them is also neat to eat. Plus its funny to listen to them scream at eachother over the changes they make to it with stuff here in the states.
Weirdest I know is some neighbors that have only been here about five or six years. One family is Palestinian. One is Israeli. They've mostly put aside their differnces, quite nice to see them coexist. So in that sense, hell yes, America for Americans. And they're Americans (They're also proof of what Golda Mier said ages ago, bout how the palastenians would only have peace when they love their children moer than they hate the jew).
To try (in vain, on this forum) to get back to topic tho.......
I really dont see why not to have more forign autos in NASCAR.
However I think the main issue is lack of interst in those companies.
A LOT of europeans I've known mostly just know the negative steryotype of NASCAR as a redneck sport, and they know jack squat past steryotypes, which translates to a lot of the euro car companies just not bothering to expand into a market that if they took a little risk in they could potentelly do quite well in.
posted on January 12th, 2011, 8:21 pm
So some of you would be more inclined to watch if European car manus. got involved correct? Thats the real question here.
Well the thing is im pretty sure none of those threeor others similar have tens of thousands of cars for sell in the US alone for under 30k-40k do they? The manufacturer in question has to have cars that most of us can actually buy and not only a few hundred people a year. They have to be accessible to the majority of us you see.
Tok`ra wrote:As an American (and someone who lives in the region of the country were nascar is very popular), albiet not a nascar fan myself, I dont really see any issue with it. If the companies wanted to, they would, as its about money.
So pretty much, yell at the foreign companies to get a nascar team.
Jaguar and Ferrari teams would be pretty awsome. Or even a Rolls Royce team.
Well the thing is im pretty sure none of those threeor others similar have tens of thousands of cars for sell in the US alone for under 30k-40k do they? The manufacturer in question has to have cars that most of us can actually buy and not only a few hundred people a year. They have to be accessible to the majority of us you see.
posted on January 14th, 2011, 11:30 am
To be honest the brands have nothing to do with it to me, they're STOCK cars, they're all engineered to be more or less equal and drive in circles.
If I watch, it's the crashes on the news.
To be honest, I wish NASCAR would go back to its bootleger roots (NASCAR started during prohibition, when idiots in the states tried to make booze illegal, and the folks in fast tricked out cars who LIKED driving fast formed what became the NASCAR of today. Basicly, I wish tehy'd do european style street races were a section of a city and its streets get closed off and races are held there, or at least the track was more than a big circle, had curves and stuff in it.
And 086gf its more than selling cars, theres also merchandising. Lets say Rolls Royce got a car. And it won. A LOT.
They could then sell t-shirts and other merchandise, theres money in that too.
But for me, the big thign is to either make it more intersting, and the brand of the car is the last thing I care about, or I'll continue only watching the wrecks.
If I watch, it's the crashes on the news.
To be honest, I wish NASCAR would go back to its bootleger roots (NASCAR started during prohibition, when idiots in the states tried to make booze illegal, and the folks in fast tricked out cars who LIKED driving fast formed what became the NASCAR of today. Basicly, I wish tehy'd do european style street races were a section of a city and its streets get closed off and races are held there, or at least the track was more than a big circle, had curves and stuff in it.
And 086gf its more than selling cars, theres also merchandising. Lets say Rolls Royce got a car. And it won. A LOT.
They could then sell t-shirts and other merchandise, theres money in that too.
But for me, the big thign is to either make it more intersting, and the brand of the car is the last thing I care about, or I'll continue only watching the wrecks.
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