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posted on August 4th, 2009, 11:13 am
sorry to be picky but after reading some of your posts about the achilles i have to point out that no single ship would hold its own against a borg cube not even a scimitar which is by far the most heavily armed ship weve seen in star trek besides the borg 

posted on August 4th, 2009, 1:35 pm
apperentally a galaxy class could
. Any way, I don't think my version of the achilles could kill a cube on its own. It would be assimilated, or destroyed first...unless it was a veterain. Then it might win, but I have never tested it.
oh, and I think the scimitar could kill a cube if it used its wach-a-ma-call-it aray thinky(its name escapes me atm). it could wipe out all life on the cube while they were still ranting about lowering your shields and surrendering.
But that is only if the weapon is charged, but it still could happen. 

oh, and I think the scimitar could kill a cube if it used its wach-a-ma-call-it aray thinky(its name escapes me atm). it could wipe out all life on the cube while they were still ranting about lowering your shields and surrendering.


posted on August 4th, 2009, 1:45 pm
Thalaron radiation, that certainly would kill all drone because ethey need their organic parts to function. But it takes 7 minutes to charge, while the Borg Hail is much shorter.
posted on August 4th, 2009, 2:18 pm
2 things to point out 1 being it only took the borg 3 torpedos to completely drain a galaxys shields and 2 it takes several minutes for the scimitar to prepare and fire its thaleron weapon by which time it would be assimilated or destroyed the only ship i can think of thats has any chance of going toe to toe with cube and winning is a species 8472 bio ship and maybe a breen ship if its energy dampening weapon was effective against the borg? 

posted on August 4th, 2009, 2:30 pm
a breen ship if its energy dampening weapon was effective against the borg
The Breen would have to fire torps at every portion of the Borg vessel given the highly decentralized power structure.... and I'm sure the Collective would adapt.
posted on August 4th, 2009, 2:31 pm
Dominus_Noctis wrote:The Breen would have to fire torps at every portion of the Borg vessel given the highly decentralized power structure.... and I'm sure the Collective would adapt.
Yeah, but it would take time to adapt to that. The Energy Drainer would likely disable the drones, too.
posted on August 4th, 2009, 4:35 pm
thats why i said if it was effective against the borg as i know of no incidents of the breen engaging the borg 1 thing to note though if it was effective surely it would knock out the subspace link tranciever linking all the drones so the collective would find it very hard to adapt without the collective minds of thousands of borg?? 

posted on August 4th, 2009, 6:22 pm
well if you think about it, an achilles is suposed to be 4 times the power of a defiant. And it has the latest anti bore tech on board. Also, the scimitar easly took out a sovereign class, which is (as far as I know) much stronger than an galaxy class. So if the scimitar is say twice as powerful as the galaxy class, has cloak, it might stand a chance. However if its weapon was charged while they were cloaked and it was ready a couple of minutes after they srarted the conflict with the cube, it has a good chance of winning.
However we don't know if there is enough rediation to kill all the crew off a cube, so because we never even saw it fired, we really have nothing to base this upon.
Two last notes. The borg may have encountered the breen before, so there is a chance their weapons would have no effect at all, or they might completely disable the ship in a matter of seconds. Again, you never know.
Last note; lets not derail the thread too much further ok?
However we don't know if there is enough rediation to kill all the crew off a cube, so because we never even saw it fired, we really have nothing to base this upon.
Two last notes. The borg may have encountered the breen before, so there is a chance their weapons would have no effect at all, or they might completely disable the ship in a matter of seconds. Again, you never know.
Last note; lets not derail the thread too much further ok?
posted on August 4th, 2009, 6:30 pm
Adm. Zaxxon wrote:well if you think about it, an achilles is suposed to be 4 times the power of a defiant. And it has the latest anti bore tech on board. Also, the scimitar easly took out a sovereign class, which is (as far as I know) much stronger than an galaxy class. So if the scimitar is say twice as powerful as the galaxy class, has cloak, it might stand a chance. However if its weapon was charged while they were cloaked and it was ready a couple of minutes after they srarted the conflict with the cube, it has a good chance of winning.
The Cube would adapt to normal weapons, so they would be useless against it. I doubt the Thalaron weapon could be charged while cloaked because of the arms that need to spread out to do that.
Adm. Zaxxon wrote:However we don't know if there is enough rediation to kill all the crew off a cube, so because we never even saw it fired, we really have nothing to base this upon.
The weapon could easy strip a Cube of its crew, it could kill the entire population of an M Class planet in seconds.
posted on August 4th, 2009, 6:39 pm
Tyler wrote:The Cube would adapt to normal weapons, so they would be useless against it. I doubt the Thalaron weapon could be charged while cloaked because of the arms that need to spread out to do that.
The weapon could easy strip a Cube of its crew, it could kill the entire population of an M Class planet in seconds.
All good points. I guess we will never know. Maybe the scimitar would be assimilated, and then we all would die


posted on August 5th, 2009, 12:57 am
Zaxxon what type of ship is that?
posted on August 5th, 2009, 5:36 am
The galaxy class EVO(evolution) 

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