Streamrunner Class

posted on May 24th, 2010, 8:12 am

maybe make a dumbed downversion of steamrunner with less damage maybe.

Okay.

Warpin-Steamrunner: Tri-Cobalt-torpedoes.

Production-Steamrunner: Escape-pods (do 95% less damage to absolutely anything, also sacrifice 10 crewmen per shot)

[Tyler]

posted on May 24th, 2010, 8:48 am

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Okay, so let's hear your argument as to why I can't order/force MY yards to build them?  (Game-Balancing Mechanics Aside)

As I said before, when things are in limited production they tend to be built in specific yards. The admiral decides which ships are built at the yards, but Starfleet picks which ships a yard specalizes in (which would likely be why each yard has a seperate list instead of sharing one). You don't control the small number of facilities that actually build them.

Uff ... you guys really know how to turn a friendly wrestling match into a thread-stealing mortal combat ....

It has to happen eventually, it will happen. It was Prof J's idea, anyway.

Okay.

Warpin-Steamrunner: Tri-Cobalt-torpedoes.

Production-Steamrunner: Escape-pods (do 95% less damage to absolutely anything, also sacrifice 10 crewmen per shot)

If the Steamrunner was made buildable, then the buildable version should be a Phaser cruiser while the Warp-In should remain unchanged.

[Professor J]

posted on May 24th, 2010, 9:33 am

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We Try.

For The Sake Of Argument (Nobody's On Tunngle & I'm Tired, plus I was originally in favour of keeping it non-build) I like the idea of the original warp-in, plus a modified buildable, though as mixed-tech.  maybe micro-photon interceptor or something. Or anti-torpedo PD...

Any Mixed-tech suggestions?  (That's right, I'm High-Jacking It!)

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posted on May 24th, 2010, 10:50 am

see the places where the steamrunner is, you cant tell me it should just remain tri-cobalt and as there is no canon from this to suggest it ever had such a device other then a phaser.



still, FO canon is what is being taken into account, by all accounts, at the least a phaser strip should be added to it.

im not on tunngle because for some reason my NAT is not compatible with that service any longer and have only used it once. no one has responded to my query the other day so i cant tell if its just me.

posted on May 24th, 2010, 10:54 am

The Steamrunner isn't armed with Tri-Cobalts because of FO canon, it actually has them because FO only continued the 'artillery bucket' role that's been dumped on the ship all the way back to Armada 1.

Me and several others mentioned the canon weapons before, but game role takes priotity. Roles are also why any 'add a Phaser' topic gets dismissed.

[RedEyedRaven]

posted on May 24th, 2010, 11:02 am

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see the places where the steamrunner is, you cant tell me it should just remain tri-cobalt and as there is no canon from this to suggest it ever had such a device other then a phaser.

The thing is: The Steamrunner was pure artillery in A1. FO is more based on A1 then on A2. The devs kept the Steamrunner as much the way it was in the game because there was no indication of ANY role of that shiptype in any Star Trek on screen; honestly. What can you tell about a ship that just flies by every of the rare times we've seen it? Nothing! The design itself may leave room for interpretation, you could say "oh look, it's superflat, so may be it is difficult to hit it", but then the devs also told the targetting computing is supereffective in the 24th century, so it's pointless to think that way.

And look... the feds really HAVE enough heavy artillery (to get back to the basis of the topic). The Excelsior-II gets artillery range on rank 4, and that shiptype levels up like hell by nature. I don't understand why the Steamrunner is desired so much if the Excelsior-II can easily be used in exchange. It may not be "free" but it isn't capped, either.

posted on May 24th, 2010, 11:05 am

I don't understand why the Steamrunner is desired so much if the Excelsior-II can easily be used in exchange. It may not be "free" but it isn't capped, either.

The modified Tricobalts and Tri-loader may have something to do with it. Some just like it.

posted on May 24th, 2010, 11:15 am

so if the steamrunner is an arty ship, why isnt it avatar specific? the others have a similiar class ship that is used for the same purpose and yet these are not restricted.. the debate could go on, but its a moot point, i am just making sure that class is one thing, but star trek canon is another .

posted on May 24th, 2010, 11:16 am

It's not avatar specific because it's a Warp-In.

posted on May 24th, 2010, 11:40 am

so if the steamrunner is an arty ship, why isnt it avatar specific? the others have a similiar class ship that is used for the same purpose and yet these are not restricted.. the debate could go on, but its a moot point, i am just making sure that class is one thing, but star trek canon is another .

It can't go on. The Serkas isn't avatar-specific and the dominion hyperspace artillery also isn't.
The klingon one is avatar-specific. And the Borg have no REAL artillery... their torpedoes are just that strong in general.

[Nebula_Class_Ftw]

posted on May 25th, 2010, 12:22 am

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About earlier in the topic: it was the StreamRunner originally (I forget the specifics but it was a band's name or something), but became Steamrunner due to the people at Paramount being less than competent  (according to Memory Alpha.)

As far as the actual discussions:
-I do think it should have a phaser strip, maybe even as its only weapon and still artillery range. It could fill the same role if you just technobabbled the phaser into being more effective against buildings.
-The whole buildable or not discussion really sounds silly to me. I'll paraphrase it like this: "Starfleet decides what a yard can and cannot do, therefore even if you explicitly tell the shipyard what to build, Starfleet decided not to build Steamrunners so the shipyard can't obey you." I have a response to this: Attention shipyards under my command: I AM THE ADMIRAL DAMNIT, IF I TELL YOU TO BUILD GIANT TELETUBBIES THAT SHOOT QUANTUM PULSES YOU WILL F*CKING OBEY ME! NOW BUILD THE MOTHERF*CKING STEAMRUNNERS!   :pimp::guns: :2guns:

Btw: If it were possible for a game to be so open-ended I could tell my shipyards to build whatever I want them to, even giant Teletubbies, I most certainly would build a few giant Teletubbies. And I would annihilate you with Teletubbies 

[Tyler]

posted on May 25th, 2010, 12:30 am

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It was a song by a band called Fold Zandura, the R dropped on the approval pages. They noticed and thought it was 'still kinda cool retro-steampunk sounding'. Stuck after that and the Streamrunner never got past the beta stage.

I have a response to this: Attention shipyards under my command: I AM THE ADMIRAL DAMNIT, IF I TELL YOU TO BUILD GIANT TELETUBBIES THAT SHOOT QUANTUM PULSES YOU WILL F*CKING OBEY ME! NOW BUILD THE MOTHERF*CKING STEAMRUNNERS!   :pimp::guns: :2guns:

Sounds like a good way to start a mutiny. S31 will be interested.

Teletubbies would make great weapons of fear.

posted on May 25th, 2010, 1:03 am

Mutiny? I'm the one in command, remember? I just told my engineers to build some Steamrunners and got a little fed up with them saying no. They disobeyed direct orders! They're the mutinous ones!
Also I tricked Section 31 into a wild goose chase. By Goose I mean Borg  . Nothing can stop my fleet of 99 Steamrunners and a Giant Teletubbie!

posted on May 25th, 2010, 1:05 am

Any you're not after saying "Screw Starfleet, you obey me!" then building what they decided won't be built there and wasting their resources?

Only one Telebubbie?

posted on May 25th, 2010, 1:17 am

Do you really think that Starfleet issued orders not to build Steamrunners? Do the higher-ups in Starfleet hate that class or something? So much that they sat down and agreed to order people to never ever build, it even if said people are under direct threat from multiple hostiles that would be easier to take on if Steamrunners were used? They might do that with designs like the Galaxy since it's a waste of resources to build old ships and retrofit them, but the Steamrunner; the ship that appeared at about the same time as the Saber?