Star Fleet Command

posted on May 31st, 2005, 8:07 pm

But they are STILL in construction. Only make them more expensive

posted on May 31st, 2005, 8:20 pm

i agree, with the building times, thanks st for the info, can i give you advice you see at the top of all your posts theres a button called "edit" it sops you having to quad post.

posted on May 31st, 2005, 8:41 pm

But theres only 3, and I can guarantee there won't be too many more then that.

BTW ST47s info was incorrect on a few things.

posted on May 31st, 2005, 8:49 pm

agree with preator on this, sovie is too expensive to make many of. one of the reasons they made the intrepid was because of a change in ship design philosophy. meaning they didn't just want to make ever bigger more expensive ships, so you see i doubt the feds will make even 10 sovies because they are so big and expensive. so many ship designs and so little resources to go round (in a ship design to resource ratio kind of way )

posted on June 1st, 2005, 3:25 am

Yeah the intrepid and the prometheous after it are supposed to be the new, lean mean starfleet. Sovereigns are battlewagons for use in highly dangerous situations.

[[TD]Roach]

posted on June 1st, 2005, 5:40 pm

Last edited by [TD]Roach on June 1st, 2005, 5:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.

uhmm you all do know that if the feds aren't allowed to build more then 3 sovs, then the klingons aren't allowed to build loads of neg'vars and for all the rommie lovers the tavara.

Besides it isn't like the feds are unbalanced. and you cannot make the game 100% cannon. longer building time should be enough with maybe a bit more costs

posted on June 1st, 2005, 6:11 pm

i find it hard to belive that the federation is finiding it hard to pluck up the rescources, theres no currency on planets, theres hundreads of systems with 1000s of planterey bodies and moons etc all with rescources on, and the federation is finding it hard to get enough materials to build 10 battle ships? yet here on earth we have enough to proberly build 100000000 of the f***ers?

posted on June 1st, 2005, 6:38 pm

consider this, would you want 10 sovies, 10 intrepids, 10 defiants, and so forth to be all that your entire fleet is composed of (basically the same number of everything) if you would i feel sorry for your fleet when 1 dominion batle ship escorted by 5 cruisers and 20/25 attack craft rip them apart.
i wouldn't, i'd want more of the smaller ships to harry the enemy with. they are generally easier to build and hence can be made more quickly in greater numbers.
maybe the resources are tight because the feds are sharing with klingons and rommies and just about every other race in TNG/DS9 series, whereas the borg and dominion have just about an entire quadrant to themselves

posted on June 1st, 2005, 7:03 pm

The limit would be 9 Negh'vars, dunno how many Norexan warbirds, we could set those to like 5, 12 galaxies, 3 soverns, And I do believe thats pretty much it.

Of course build time won't stop people from making messes of them, since alot of people build 5-10 shipyards anyway. Whoever thought that would stop 100 soverns should be shot.

posted on June 1st, 2005, 11:35 pm

we should not have limits on the number of ship but instead the build time because otherwise is will simply be a race too see who can reach the limits first...

posted on June 2nd, 2005, 12:18 am

Well if we just let unlimited build time then it's just a race to see who can build the most ships. With a limit it's more realistic plus you won't see a fleet of soverns or negh'vars.

posted on June 2nd, 2005, 2:14 am

I think what Praetor is trying to say is that the Tavara is the only battleship done right in FO. I agree. It is far far more powerful than the cruisers, and it costs a significant percentage of the available credits.

posted on June 2nd, 2005, 2:17 am

In response to the comment about why the Feds don't build anything but battleships ... the trained crew is a more scarce resource than the ships themselves. If you look at the weapon power in ratio to the number of crew on a ship, you're better off building akiras (or now Prometheous and Defiant) than you are building sovereigns. There's only one starfleet academy after all

On the other hand, if you want to impress how kick-ass you are on say a single planet or star system, something like a sovereign will make a much bigger political impression than a squadron of defiants.

posted on June 2nd, 2005, 12:50 pm

I still agree with roach, not everything can be completely canon, and plus credits are ment for special structures and buildings, so if something like this was done loads of people would be angry because they couldnt even build all the ships at races disposal. To be fair I would be mad as well .

Maybe the battleships must be stronger, but dont limit them with credits just make them cost more and build longer. So if anyone would just set of to build battleships he would eventually run out of resources plus the other play could destroy him with a lot greater numbers of cruisers and destroyers.

And I agree with coolhandab that crew is actually the most important thing is starfleet That is where the Borg and the Dominion has the greatest advantage

posted on June 2nd, 2005, 1:13 pm

i have never run out of crew with the feds or the rommies but i did yesterday with the borg.