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posted on January 17th, 2011, 6:31 pm

[align=center]Zebh (White-Federation/risner)
Sutee (Purple-Dominion/pure)
Dragonize (Orange-Klingon/martok)

vs.

Megadroid (Red-Klingon/taqroja)
Nfrost (Green-Federation/risner)
Halfala (Blue-Romulan/helev)

(C]ZSD vs. MNH 1/3
(C)ZSD vs. MNH 2/3
(C)ZSD vs. MNH 3/3

Map: The Argus Conflict (6Player 24kx19k)[/align]

posted on January 17th, 2011, 8:50 pm

i dont think that was hal exactly gg-ing. it looked like he and his teammates had a falling out cos of the lag

that game could have gone either way. the top were pressuring well but megadroid was doing brilliantly with his kvorts and getting ranks, decimating zebh's exp. hal was also getting good miner kills on the top.

posted on January 17th, 2011, 11:24 pm

nFrosy and Hal got into a fight so Hal quit.

Megaman3321

809 posts

posted on January 18th, 2011, 9:54 pm

It was a good game, although nFrost's unsportsmanship kinda tainted it a bit.

posted on January 19th, 2011, 6:23 pm

Hey Ray when are you gonna upload the 2 v 2 on Nebula Stream? That was an amazing match with Clint and I double-commentating. I'd LOVE to reference some parts of that match in my little strategy Threads.

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 5:44 pm

[align=center]Boggz (White - Romulan)
vs
Clintsat (Red - Federation)

Map: Duel II v1.2 (2 player, 14k x 14k)

(C)Boggz(R) vs Clintsat(F) 012211[/align]

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 6:29 pm

Heh, something that kinda bummed me out after watching that:

If I had just continued to mass Leahvals there would have been no reason to build anything else. Critical mass with Leahvals would have been more than enough. Feds don't have a hard enough counter to stop massed Leahvals until they get to Defiants or Sovereigns and by that point I would have had too many Leahvals.

Kind of a bummer to think about

. I teched around not because I had to but because I enjoy that more.

Nebula_Class_Ftw

1199 posts

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 6:42 pm

Pure Leahvals would've been funny vs all those ADAI E-1s... If I were Clintsat, I would've decommissioned those slow flying supply losses.

As for the Leahval countering, it would be nice to see the Feds get a counter lower on the tech tree. Maybe something that could stop auto-repair (notice how the Leahvals seemed to take absolutely no damage while retreating.
Nice job to Clintsat with thinking to use Canaverals, which are a nice help against Leahvals. :thumbsup:

Blazing

606 posts

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 6:52 pm

Re the Federation scout having more shields than a Cube - of course it does, the Cube doesn't have shields at all :thumbsup:

But still, good game guys - Boggz it was nice to see a lot of Romulan ships that you don't see much like the Norexan :thumbsup:

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 7:00 pm

feds do have a hard time against leahvals, warpins are all bad. so double yarding is a much better move.

the guide lists the canav as a counter to the leahval, although i find it isnt really that easy, they cost a lot, so you will be playing with the sort of numbers a rom player will have if u canav spam. the passive of the canav is good, the pulse will only do 20% less damage to the medium sized leahval. i just think the cost is prohibitive, also the canaveral is kinda weak. you almost HAVE to turn on EC3M. and even then meta d is likely to clean up your leahvals as u dont have many, while you will struggle to get critical mass required to strike back, and will have to rely on decloak and be quick to catch up to the leahval, which is 30 faster than the canav.

i prefer monsoon spam, it only suffers 10% vs leahvals short range, and the pure phaser damage isnt exactly what you are gonna get the kills with, its the proxy torp, which is just like meta D, just will recharge slower. you wont keep every monsoon alive cos of meta D, but with 140 speed you should keep the kill ratio of 1.5 mons to every leahval killed, which will work as mons are cheap and mass quickly.

i'd like to say that one could mix mons and canavs, but that would mean putting the SR mons ahead and the LR canavs at the back, requiring more micro, and they will be cloaked and fly past your mons, decloak and wipe out a couple canavs at the start with ease. before your mons can turn around and help and before you can turn on ec3m.

sabres will take full damage from leahval beams, and wont last long against meta d cos of low defence. intrepids are hard countered by leahvals. akiras are countered by leahvals, novas will die fast to meta D, e2 seem ok on the surface, but they are incredibly slow and auto repair will keep them alive and a good microing rom player will never lose a leahval vs e2 spam, and will harass you to death while your slow e2s cant harass or help mining in time.

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 7:30 pm

@ Myles, I actually think a Saber start would be awesome, but again that's a strat requiring your first actions so it's not a good 'counter' in my mind

. You'd have to change your tune to Sabers once you saw the Leahval startup which makes engineering almost useless.

But you're right about the Canaverals: Only using Blackout as support for other ships would they really shine. Killing Romulans early on (especially Leahvals) is about dealing damage quickly before they can hit auto-rep and cloak out. Double yarding Mons and getting proxy torp will fulfill that with better speed and more overall use. Canaverals as fighters simply don't do the damage necessary to get kills nor can they chase.

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 7:48 pm

Boggz wrote:@ Myles, I actually think a Saber start would be awesome, but again that's a strat requiring your first actions so it's not a good 'counter' in my mind . You'd have to change your tune to Sabers once you saw the Leahval startup which makes engineering almost useless.

your reason is valid too. i think that sabres just wont survive long enough. with other ships the leahvals will be using most of their meta Ds at the same time on one ship to get the quick kill. with sabres they are so low def that you can split your leahvals meta Ds up, with good micro you can use a pair of leahvals to kill any sabre that loses shields. the beams will get the shields down before it can escape, then it only takes 2 meta Ds to finish on average. which means multiple sabres at every battle. and the sabres arent high off either, so they wont get the numbers needed to beat auto repair. they dont have a finishing weapon like meta D or proxy torp. so you will never lose a leahval.

posted on January 23rd, 2011, 9:49 pm

just watched the replay. it was painful to watch those leahvals run into the fed fleet and then derp decloak and die. leaaaaaahvaaaaal jenkins. and then later all the norexans wouldnt stay facing the feds and a norexan and big d went down. boggz ended up with all the research stations though lol.