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posted on January 11th, 2018, 12:26 am
I'm not even sure why we bother anymore... with the lack of substance from the devs and the very callous attitude they have towards players I don't think I'm even interested in trying NX. That is, IF it's ever released.
posted on January 14th, 2018, 1:09 am
What was it they said a while back about projects that change their game engine dying? Because that is exactly what has happened here!
posted on January 17th, 2018, 9:04 pm
TChapman500 wrote:What was it they said a while back about projects that change their game engine dying? Because that is exactly what has happened here!


Im pretty certain that was me that said that and then they blocked my account for saying it. They were happy to let the few known bum suckers suck them off for such a strange decision but anyone that was critical about it they blocked.
posted on January 18th, 2018, 8:53 pm
I have been playing fleetops since the early 3.0 pretty much exclusivelly as skirmish or on lanparties with friends. I have never been active in the comunity, appart from some random posts under different names, but always have enjoyed the game a lot.

I check this site about 3 times a year just to see if NX have come out yet, read the forums a bit and then go away. Seriously people you have made me create an account after about 6 or more years. What is utterly baffling to me is the amount of negative feedback from players arround here. Did you pay for this in any way? No, it is free. Are you somehow inexplicably invested in the future of NX? No, you are not.

I can tell you for sure that if I was a developer I would have abandoned this project just because of the community that is currently expressing itself in this particular topic. Are you somehow helping with this project? No - you are just continuously insulting people who made FleetOps for no apparent reason... If you cannot manage your own expectations, then I would suggets growing up a bit.

Honestly people think about what you are doing here.

If NX ever comes out, then great. If it does not, then it does not. Developers have already created something that has surpassed many great games and if anything lost a ton of money in the process.
posted on January 19th, 2018, 12:22 pm
habeascorpus wrote:I have been playing fleetops since the early 3.0 pretty much exclusivelly as skirmish or on lanparties with friends. I have never been active in the comunity, appart from some random posts under different names, but always have enjoyed the game a lot.

I check this site about 3 times a year just to see if NX have come out yet, read the forums a bit and then go away. Seriously people you have made me create an account after about 6 or more years. What is utterly baffling to me is the amount of negative feedback from players arround here. Did you pay for this in any way? No, it is free. Are you somehow inexplicably invested in the future of NX? No, you are not.

I can tell you for sure that if I was a developer I would have abandoned this project just because of the community that is currently expressing itself in this particular topic. Are you somehow helping with this project? No - you are just continuously insulting people who made FleetOps for no apparent reason... If you cannot manage your own expectations, then I would suggets growing up a bit.

Honestly people think about what you are doing here.


If NX ever comes out, then great. If it does not, then it does not. Developers have already created something that has surpassed many great games and if anything lost a ton of money in the process.




If i saw you buy a brand new mercedes c class and then watched you cut the roof off to make some sort of weird truck, you then give up because you cant complete it and realise the whole thing was a stupid idea, can i not call you an idiot for making such a stupid decision and breaking something pretty awesome? well tough i would and the fact i didnt pay for it is irelevant stupid is stupid and if you cant handle that snowflake then shut up or dont do stupid things.

Fleet ops has been around for so long that the people that still play it after all this time have a deep emotional connection to it, its the last startrek game out there truly worth playing (yes including startrek online) and the only great startrek rts game there has ever been. When fleet ops began and throughout its life it has gotten nothing but praise the only real critical comments during that time were of its balance issues.

Now the negative comments are about the decision to change over to a new engine which although it is entirely understandable given what they explained that it is difficult modding an old engine and is time consuming the decision to change over to an incomplete engine was very odd and appears to have been a very bad idea as the amount of time that has passed could have been used to finish the update they were working on shortly before that annoucement and the scrapping and not releasing of that content. Also the fact that after 3+ years they have told us NOTHING about the progress or if they are even still working on the project, why should we not be upset or even angry about this? The project is not soley being made for their entertainment they wouldnt have their own website AND forum if that was the case. There are people waiting on this and if they dont respect the community they built enough to tell us whats going on or if this entire project has been abanded then they will just have to deal with it although im quiet certain that the devs here are not as sensitive as you. No one is directly insulting the devs only their decisions and if after reading this topic you cant see the "apparent reason" well then you must be pretty dense.

Free or not everyone has the right to post their opinion whether snowflakes like you like it or not.
posted on January 19th, 2018, 5:14 pm
eraldo20 wrote: If i saw you buy a brand new mercedes c class and then watched you cut the roof off to make some sort of weird truck, you then give up because you cant complete it and realise the whole thing was a stupid idea, can i not call you an idiot for making such a stupid decision and breaking something pretty awesome? well tough i would and the fact i didnt pay for it is irelevant stupid is stupid and if you cant handle that snowflake then shut up or dont do stupid things.

Fleet ops has been around for so long that the people that still play it after all this time have a deep emotional connection to it, its the last startrek game out there truly worth playing (yes including startrek online) and the only great startrek rts game there has ever been. When fleet ops began and throughout its life it has gotten nothing but praise the only real critical comments during that time were of its balance issues.

Now the negative comments are about the decision to change over to a new engine which although it is entirely understandable given what they explained that it is difficult modding an old engine and is time consuming the decision to change over to an incomplete engine was very odd and appears to have been a very bad idea as the amount of time that has passed could have been used to finish the update they were working on shortly before that annoucement and the scrapping and not releasing of that content. Also the fact that after 3+ years they have told us NOTHING about the progress or if they are even still working on the project, why should we not be upset or even angry about this? The project is not soley being made for their entertainment they wouldnt have their own website AND forum if that was the case. There are people waiting on this and if they dont respect the community they built enough to tell us whats going on or if this entire project has been abanded then they will just have to deal with it although im quiet certain that the devs here are not as sensitive as you. No one is directly insulting the devs only their decisions and if after reading this topic you cant see the "apparent reason" well then you must be pretty dense.

Free or not everyone has the right to post their opinion whether snowflakes like you like it or not.


This kind of post is uncalled for. Your opinion has come down to insults. Insults are not opinions. They are personal attacks on people. If you have to insult people, then you should take it somewhere else. I have reported your post.
posted on January 19th, 2018, 9:10 pm
Poseidon wrote:
eraldo20 wrote: If i saw you buy a brand new mercedes c class and then watched you cut the roof off to make some sort of weird truck, you then give up because you cant complete it and realise the whole thing was a stupid idea, can i not call you an idiot for making such a stupid decision and breaking something pretty awesome? well tough i would and the fact i didnt pay for it is irelevant stupid is stupid and if you cant handle that snowflake then shut up or dont do stupid things.

Fleet ops has been around for so long that the people that still play it after all this time have a deep emotional connection to it, its the last startrek game out there truly worth playing (yes including startrek online) and the only great startrek rts game there has ever been. When fleet ops began and throughout its life it has gotten nothing but praise the only real critical comments during that time were of its balance issues.

Now the negative comments are about the decision to change over to a new engine which although it is entirely understandable given what they explained that it is difficult modding an old engine and is time consuming the decision to change over to an incomplete engine was very odd and appears to have been a very bad idea as the amount of time that has passed could have been used to finish the update they were working on shortly before that annoucement and the scrapping and not releasing of that content. Also the fact that after 3+ years they have told us NOTHING about the progress or if they are even still working on the project, why should we not be upset or even angry about this? The project is not soley being made for their entertainment they wouldnt have their own website AND forum if that was the case. There are people waiting on this and if they dont respect the community they built enough to tell us whats going on or if this entire project has been abanded then they will just have to deal with it although im quiet certain that the devs here are not as sensitive as you. No one is directly insulting the devs only their decisions and if after reading this topic you cant see the "apparent reason" well then you must be pretty dense.

Free or not everyone has the right to post their opinion whether snowflakes like you like it or not.


This kind of post is uncalled for. Your opinion has come down to insults. Insults are not opinions. They are personal attacks on people. If you have to insult people, then you should take it somewhere else. I have reported your post.



Likewise, reported for being a snowflake.
posted on January 19th, 2018, 11:55 pm
Reporting someone because they call you out for slandering people on this forum won't get you very far. You were banned once for being obnoxious and your doing it again. If you want to help, then be constructive. Since all you do is call people names, I'll bet your banned before I am.

On that note, I am getting tired of people complaining and winning like little girls on this forum. Grow up and get a life! I get auto messages for this thread because if any news comes out, I want to read it. I don't want to read peoples hate on this forum. Could the mods please step in and chime on this situation. If not, the internet is a nameless faceless void full of places to go to spew name calling and bastardizing of people. Seems they can only thrive on putting other people down.
posted on January 20th, 2018, 1:43 am
Poseidon wrote:Reporting someone because they call you out for slandering people on this forum won't get you very far. You were banned once for being obnoxious and your doing it again. If you want to help, then be constructive. Since all you do is call people names, I'll bet your banned before I am.

On that note, I am getting tired of people complaining and winning like little girls on this forum. Grow up and get a life! I get auto messages for this thread because if any news comes out, I want to read it. I don't want to read peoples hate on this forum. Could the mods please step in and chime on this situation. If not, the internet is a nameless faceless void full of places to go to spew name calling and bastardizing of people. Seems they can only thrive on putting other people down.


First off that would be "you're"

Second i have no idea what you mean by winning like little girls but im sick of snowflakes like you whining about little things like someone swearing or calling another person an idiot, get over it snowflake. I struggle to believe anyone can be so fragile, its done in real life and its done even more online if you cant handle it you know where to go.

What do you know about the reasoning behind any ban? The last account i had was lost when the forum switched over, but nice try snowflake. Now grow up and get a life.
posted on January 20th, 2018, 2:09 am
eraldo20 wrote:
Poseidon wrote:Reporting someone because they call you out for slandering people on this forum won't get you very far. You were banned once for being obnoxious and your doing it again. If you want to help, then be constructive. Since all you do is call people names, I'll bet your banned before I am.

On that note, I am getting tired of people complaining and winning like little girls on this forum. Grow up and get a life! I get auto messages for this thread because if any news comes out, I want to read it. I don't want to read peoples hate on this forum. Could the mods please step in and chime on this situation. If not, the internet is a nameless faceless void full of places to go to spew name calling and bastardizing of people. Seems they can only thrive on putting other people down.


First off that would be "you're"

Second i have no idea what you mean by winning like little girls but im sick of snowflakes like you whining about little things like someone swearing or calling another person an idiot, get over it snowflake. I struggle to believe anyone can be so fragile, its done in real life and its done even more online if you cant handle it you know where to go.

What do you know about the reasoning behind any ban? The last account i had was lost when the forum switched over, but nice try snowflake. Now grow up and get a life.


In real life, I would just pound people like this into the ground. I did not call you names, you certainly did. I am not whining about anything other than your shithole attitude. I'm not a Dem, but I can see why they hate people like you. Also, you seem to have a 5th grade education. Can you even spell? Your spelling is terrible. Just like a Trumpanzy! He can't spell either. We see this every day. Anyway, arguing on the internet is like running a race in the special Olympics. Irregardless who wins, your still retarded. I'm am not retarded so I am not going to deal with assholes like you anymore here. If you where here in Texas, I would take great pleasure in pounding you down myself. 6'2" and can bench 290. I'm not a delicate snowflake ass. I'm fit and can certainly take care of myself. Can't see you standing up to me in real life. So rant all you want ass hat, ignoring piss ants like you is the right thing to do. I stand up for those who are bullies. You are a troll bully. Again, too bad you are not here....
posted on January 20th, 2018, 3:35 am
Poseidon wrote:
eraldo20 wrote:
Poseidon wrote:Reporting someone because they call you out for slandering people on this forum won't get you very far. You were banned once for being obnoxious and your doing it again. If you want to help, then be constructive. Since all you do is call people names, I'll bet your banned before I am.

On that note, I am getting tired of people complaining and winning like little girls on this forum. Grow up and get a life! I get auto messages for this thread because if any news comes out, I want to read it. I don't want to read peoples hate on this forum. Could the mods please step in and chime on this situation. If not, the internet is a nameless faceless void full of places to go to spew name calling and bastardizing of people. Seems they can only thrive on putting other people down.


First off that would be "you're"

Second i have no idea what you mean by winning like little girls but im sick of snowflakes like you whining about little things like someone swearing or calling another person an idiot, get over it snowflake. I struggle to believe anyone can be so fragile, its done in real life and its done even more online if you cant handle it you know where to go.

What do you know about the reasoning behind any ban? The last account i had was lost when the forum switched over, but nice try snowflake. Now grow up and get a life.


In real life, I would just pound people like this into the ground. I did not call you names, you certainly did. I am not whining about anything other than your shithole attitude. I'm not a Dem, but I can see why they hate people like you. Also, you seem to have a 5th grade education. Can you even spell? Your spelling is terrible. Just like a Trumpanzy! He can't spell either. We see this every day. Anyway, arguing on the internet is like running a race in the special Olympics. Irregardless who wins, your still retarded. I'm am not retarded so I am not going to deal with assholes like you anymore here. If you where here in Texas, I would take great pleasure in pounding you down myself. 6'2" and can bench 290. I'm not a delicate snowflake ass. I'm fit and can certainly take care of myself. Can't see you standing up to me in real life. So rant all you want ass hat, ignoring piss ants like you is the right thing to do. I stand up for those who are bullies. You are a troll bully. Again, too bad you are not here....


hahahahahahaha "im am not retarded"

The only thing you can lift is a cheeseburger.

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posted on January 20th, 2018, 4:20 am
I've held off from posting on this thread for a while, but I'm going to share my two cents. To start off, I don't like what this thread has devolved into, I don't think it's inviting to people dropping by our forums, and I don't think it's a good look for our community.

Re-guarding the topic of game status. As far as the Ezengine goes, the rumor that it is not being worked on is not accurate. If you look on their GitHub they are still makings changes/addition to the engine. Additionally i've talked to a few folks on teamspeak/discord and determined that the origin of the rumor was due to a miscommunication, the Ezengine is still being worked on. However that is only one part of it, the other part is FlopsNX. There has been a lack of "official posts" on NX, the last one being in 2015, over two years ago. One year ago there was an update from Doca where he said
We have the core systems working. Things like ship physics, networking, teams, lobby, resources, ship/station construction, ship avoidance, yard docking, ship repair, ship ai, game menus etc, a lot more. These are mostly in a final state. However i am certain many still require tweaking here and there. We haven't built a system for ship/station/weapon upgrades yet, while the modules are already prepared to accept these. There are other crucial things that aren't done yet like player ai. Our current task is to look into the graphics engine now. After that, we hopefully can show the first screenshots of the game. The last month or so we haven't had the time to work much on FO, since we are mostly busy with other real life stuff. That will change in the new year i hope. However, it is still a long way to go for FONX.

And much more recently Dominus posted
We are grateful fans of Fleet Operations are so passionate about the game :)

Our policy continues to be that we will show something when we have something important to show. In the meantime we continue to watch, upgrade, and pay hosting for the forums and downloads.

The devs have been very consistent since the beginning of flops that they were not going to promise dates of release, that they would show stuff when it was ready. There were periods between the betas, 3.0pr, and 3.0 where we waited long periods of time for release. Given the post by Doca, the post by Dominus, the money they spend to pay to keep the forums up, and their commitment to flops for nearly 15 years, I think that Flops is in development, and they will show something when the graphics engine is up to specifications. It has been a long time since 3.2.7 came out, but they are working with new engine, and now have the ability to implement new features they couldn't even dream of doing with the old engine. I think its understandable that it is taking a long time, and will be more than worth the wait.

As far as their updates or lack of updates; I understand the want for information. I want updates too, I want to know whats going to be in the next version, and what cool stuff they are going to do. However, what I really want is for the game to come out, and status updates are not going to change that. If it takes 5 years, then that's how long we have to wait, and I don't think that status updates really make that wait any easier for me. Personally I don't mind not having constant updates, they've show consistency on their update policy, a commitment to the game for 15 years, and I believe they will show us something when they are ready.

To add to that, this is a hobby of theirs, its not a job. I'm sensing a small amount of hostility to the devs (not singling out any one person, I'm just generalizing) and I don't quite understand where that is coming from. I get that we want updates, but we don't need updates, and we are certainly not owed updates. This is their project, they put the time and money into it, and they get to decide what they want to do with it. The rest of us don't contribute to the actual game design, fleetops is their work. Most importantly is it probably secondary to the rest of their lives, and it should be, it's not something they should spend all their time on so that we can have it faster. I am grateful that they have allowed us to play the game for 15 years, and have helped foster this community. We have had a great community here, and I have enjoyed the many hours of games and fun I have had with people here.

To continue on that last thought, although I have no doubts that Flops NX will be released, I don't think it matters if it is not released. We already have a great game (flops 3.2.7) to play and a great involved community. Funnystuff has organized a great tournament with a donated cash prize, and a good number of competitors, including alot of Flops players who have been away from the community for a while. Tryptic is doing some real nice work with his mod and getting support from people like Mighty and Shadow with testing. Defiant is working on a nice re texture project for flops. Drone, Zap, and Tryptic (where he isn't modding) are pushing out some great commentaries. We have a Discord now where people can schedule games. And of course, we have a great number of players both new and old who are playing games. If players are just waiting for NX then they are missing out on a great community and game that they can join right now! Come join us and play! We need more players, commentators, modders, and map makers. There is plenty of fun to be had currently.

Those are my thoughts. I'm grateful for this current game, I do think NX will come out at some point, I'm sure the devs will update us when they are ready to, and I'm excited to play some Flops 3.2.7 games and do some commentaries. (please get your tourney games done the first round is almost over!)

Thanks for reading
-Ray
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