What I would like to see for Fed ship build list/warpin

posted on August 9th, 2010, 5:58 pm

I have not played online I just fight the AI  I always try to have some of EVERY class in my fleets the overlapping and accumulation of all the individual specials and passives seems to be good at Shreding the ai fleets to pieces with minimal losses on my side which is my goal to beat the Ai with losses in the double or single digits for the whole game My main goal is to have 0 losses which with the Romulans seems to be impossible as a Tavara will always capture at least one enemy vessel which is then immediately killed by its former friends. i know i could always just not build a Tavara.

posted on August 9th, 2010, 6:00 pm

Or you could not have it use special by default...

posted on August 9th, 2010, 6:01 pm

that is true

posted on August 9th, 2010, 11:57 pm

Warp in should be to support your fleet, not be your fleet. It also needs tweaking so that it cannot be used for one off strikes, and raids. As a distress call, the warpin should only be sendable to your own vessels and stations or your allies.

I believe that would be far too limiting. One of the advantages to federation warp-in is affording broader strategies by allowing you to send them anywhere on the map; following your suggestion would mean that you were only be able to re-enforce existing forces, what about flanking the enemy?.

Plus whichever opponent rushes to build SFC is probably not building many other ships so this is balanced appropriately IMO.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 1:14 am

I believe that would be far too limiting. One of the advantages to federation warp-in is affording broader strategies by allowing you to send them anywhere on the map; following your suggestion would mean that you were only be able to re-enforce existing forces, what about flanking the enemy?.

look at how you are characterising warpins.

flaking the enemy is an offensive move.

warpins come via a distress call.

a distress call is for when u are in dire need of help to survive. not when u want to flank someone and make it easier to win. u dont send a distress call that reads: "heeeeeelp, please go blow up my enemy's mining station, it's causing me distress"

distress calls shouldn't be offensive.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 1:22 am

yeah, Personally I think it should be automatic.  Whenever you are attacked, as long as your recharge is done, you should get a message saying that a distressw call has been sent, and the ships the ships would respond to the destress call just like they do now.

That way, you can't just warp the ships wherever you want, and use them as targets or suicide them, they would only come in time of need.

Though I think you should still be able to request permission to use an experimental ship.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 2:38 am

ok if warpins where just ships answering to a distress call u wouldnt have to build a station for that, SFC is like a reinforcement center and remember warpin is wat makes feds unique.

all the warpin needs is a cost like sum supplies etc

also feds dont really have uber ships like borg Tac Cubes ,romulan Tavara's etc so warpin makes up for that

posted on August 10th, 2010, 2:45 am

i just thought maybe once SFC is built u can only warpin exels then u have to research for others

so could b like this

Offence warpin research-Galaxy (not sure which has best offence)

Defence warpin research-Ambassador

Artillary warpin research-Steamrunner

Experimental warpin research-Descent

Support warpin research-Nebula/Nebula Refit

i think some thing like this would b ok 

posted on August 10th, 2010, 3:46 am

I agree that warp-ins need to be broken into different types.  Suppose there was an indicator on the SFC, like "Offensive ships have responded to our call" and for the next 1 minute you could call in an offensive warp-in.  If you call it, you get a several-minute cooldown but if you don't call it or if you refuse it, you get a second, much shorter cooldown and then a different type of warp-in becomes available to you.  Maybe some warp-ins can only be called where you have vision, maybe some can only go near a starbase or refinery.  Maybe some require levels of starship engineering before they enter the lottery.

As for reducing warp-in fleets, I think some of the warp-ins should be made more powerful (2 Galaxies, 1 nebula, 1 steamrunner for a later-game one) but be more limited in number, like you can only have 1 warp-in squad at a time and you have an option to dismiss them if you want to get a different one.

[navyguy]

posted on August 10th, 2010, 4:08 am

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How about the name and make of ship, and "she has reasponded to your SOS" I think what would look the best is NCC1701-C USS ENTERPRISE OR USS AMBASSADOR HAS REASPONDED TO YOUR SOS.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 4:16 am

something that i think would be cool is when your playing as the feds and you have an ally you have a certain % chance that some allied ships respond  say your  feds allied with the Romulans you  might get 3 of there ships certainly not a Tavara or even a Norex  but maybe a D'Derdex and 2 other weaker ships or maybe specific unique ships that are not buildable unless you know how to modify odf's

posted on August 10th, 2010, 6:58 am

How about the name and make of ship, and "she has reasponded to your SOS" I think what would look the best is NCC1701-C USS ENTERPRISE OR USS AMBASSADOR HAS REASPONDED TO YOUR SOS.

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posted on August 10th, 2010, 12:00 pm

warpins are already gonna get split into normal and arty.

about needing sfc to send a distress call. im sure starfleet gets loads of distress calls, so they have to prioritise. so they only go help important bases. thats why sfc is not buildable from start, you need an important base, with many citizens before starfleet will put you at the top of their defend list.

i think sfc should require eraudi yard too.

posted on August 10th, 2010, 5:23 pm

I doubt they will be made in research or cost, though. Punishment for wasting them is the way the team is going right now. Distress calls are not researched or bought, we are not discussing a Ferengi ability.

posted on August 11th, 2010, 12:20 pm

yep, its most likely that Starfleet will tax you soon for losing one of these wonderful Galaxys. Better have a pile of supplies ready!