The Balance Thread

[Skitzeh]

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 4:08 pm

Last edited by Skitzeh on September 23rd, 2006, 4:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

this has been nagging me for a while... but i dont see how the FO team can make balancing changes when i hear u dont even play online, i guess you work off of the results of games between yourselves OR against AI and sometimes i guess on the back of observations made by regular players in the community...

no disrespect... but i just cannot see how you can have that clearer an idea what needs changing.

can one of u explain how u do it?

sorry. :<

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 4:45 pm

The Sabre is fine, it has a very long range, and just build up a couple turrets at each vulerable spot that can buy you the time for your mobile forces to get there.

And if you think the Feds are so weak, try out another race against them, and you'll see how "weak" they are.

[Anonymous]

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 4:45 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on September 23rd, 2006, 4:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Well u can always learn to play with a race u want lol
Its quite funny really, since I dont like the Rommies very much in ST but Im best with them in FO yet for some reason I suck with klingons :S



^^^ this was a reply to Optec post, which he deleted lol

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 5:49 pm

You also have to factor in the fact that sabres are cheaper and slightly faster to build than bops (I could be wrong about the build time- correct me if I am)

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 5:55 pm

The Sabre is fine, it has a very long range, and just build up a couple turrets at each vulerable spot that can buy you the time for your mobile forces to get there.

And if you think the Feds are so weak, try out another race against them, and you'll see how "weak" they are.

ay, it has a long range, but you just don't get the point! massing sabers is doable yes! but i am talking about the freaking start of an ONLINE game, when you MUST battle for resources AND you cannot win that battle against klingon bops, dominion bugs or romulan shrieks/rhienns! And so you'r opponent get's the upper hand, don't get me wrong though i have been able to subdue them on many occasions, but only becuse i moved to monsoons and massed them at the moons! And even then i got slaughtered later on, when he got enough bops together! And you must understand i had more resources and more expencive ships.

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 6:30 pm

QUOTE (Rhaz @ Sep 23 2006, 05:45 PM)
The Sabre is fine, it has a very long range, and just build up a couple turrets at each vulerable spot that can buy you the time for your mobile forces to get there.

And if you think the Feds are so weak, try out another race against them, and you'll see how "weak" they are.

ay, it has a long range, but you just don't get the point! massing sabers is doable yes! but i am talking about the freaking start of an ONLINE game, when you MUST battle for resources AND you cannot win that battle against klingon bops, dominion bugs or romulan shrieks/rhienns! And so you'r opponent get's the upper hand, don't get me wrong though i have been able to subdue them on many occasions, but only becuse i moved to monsoons and massed them at the moons! And even then i got slaughtered later on, when he got enough bops together! And you must understand i had more resources and more expencive ships.

Build a turret or 2 at those moons and a couple of sabres and your set ^^ Then u can move onto bigger, better, more expensive ships

Bugs sure do build faster than sabres, BUT at the cost of 6 supplies per unit u NEED extra moon sets with the Dominion With feds u can easily manage with only 2 moon sets ^^

posted on September 23rd, 2006, 7:40 pm

Cube i agree with you more than anyone cause im the one who ur talking about with the bops so i would know

Look the problem with the sabre is that for example if im klingon i can spam out KTINGAS and beat them !

Let alone bops

( ktingas are cheaper )

so if i get 8 bops which i do pretty damn fast i can take out his entire base if he tried to turret his moons cause ive taken down a fed base with 10 bops before so ....

posted on September 24th, 2006, 5:55 am

Yep and I can pretty much **** a base up with 1 bug if the opposing player has nothing to defend himself with
I would know I have done it b4(with 4 bugs actually )

The point is, the strenght of the ship does not matter if your enemy is stupid
Anyway, I REALLY thing u're underestimating the poor'ol sabre cause whenever I play feds I use them quite a lot :S

posted on September 24th, 2006, 12:19 pm

and i play with them all the time...and that 2 turrets and some sabers at the moons tactic? Hasn't worked very well and i've used it quite alot of times, ask 4of11.

posted on September 24th, 2006, 5:54 pm

yup i know it doesnt work

posted on September 25th, 2006, 12:56 pm

although it was not necessary the sabres passive ability will now grant a 20% hitchance reduction instead of 10% to make their usage easier

posted on September 25th, 2006, 1:12 pm

nice, now there is no need to overgun it

this includes pulses as well as torps?

posted on September 25th, 2006, 3:12 pm

See that will help

posted on September 25th, 2006, 3:20 pm

thanks optec i'm sure this will help the ol sabres deal with rushes better

posted on September 25th, 2006, 4:19 pm

I swear to god guys if the sabre becomes too strong Im gonna punch every one of you in the face

Seriously tho, I hope it will handle rushes better