Something About Point Defense Phaser

posted on January 2nd, 2005, 10:48 pm

I do enjoy them in that use, them Klingon turrets are VERY powerful. I do believe Optec said he made them use more energy in next version so we shouldn't have a problem.

posted on January 3rd, 2005, 4:25 am

I know this probably isn't possible in the A2 engine, but the PDP would make more sense if it could handle a certain number of torpedos per second per ship, like 2 or something, instead of the seemingly infinite number it protects against now. That would at least force you to have lots of Akiras in every fleet.

Or how about this: don't change the energy timings or anything, just disable the main phaser whenever PDP is activated. That makes even more sense to me.

posted on January 3rd, 2005, 2:46 pm

First idea makes sense, second idea also makes since if you can still use torpedos. I would say yes to it if the Akira actually had torpedos, since it doesn't, that puts it at a disadvantage.

posted on January 3rd, 2005, 7:01 pm

torpedos have difrant strinth war heds on tham in star treck. so f ones ships torpedo duss less damgeg than a nuther that whood be normal.

so if a ship shoots more than one torp with a low yeld that whood work.

posted on January 3rd, 2005, 8:10 pm

well if you look at the daystrom institute website, the akire has the most torp tubes of strafleet. it has 8. so you can make an akira a some sort of bomber instead of a PDS ship. but i like it the way it is even if they are terrible when i have a fleet of sang

posted on January 3rd, 2005, 10:29 pm

Actually it has 15 tubes. I'm not the one who made that up, some tech dude for DS9 did I think.

I want the Feds Photons to be very weak but for them to have burst fire tubes, so they fire 3 at a time. The Sovern does with the Quantums at the first time it fires them at an enemy, basically at the beginning of each engagement. Be nice if all the feds had at least this ability.

posted on January 7th, 2005, 12:01 am

yeh the sig for starfleet is burst torps

as for the akira i hate to see it without torps for me its a disgrace as for pdp yeh it is a bit too strong but its hard to see i do like the idea of a bomber possibly do what the steam runner had was make it a bomber torp ship like sangs with medium burst torps and a short range phaser ?

posted on January 7th, 2005, 5:13 am

how about we correct the mistake of the original armada designers and make the steamrunner a light cruiser and make the Akira the expensive torpedo-spraying beast it is in the movies?

posted on January 7th, 2005, 6:25 am

It wasen't a torpedo sprayer in the movies, I really think it's a screw up, but I wouldn't mind it losing point defense in exchange for some torpedos as standard.

posted on January 7th, 2005, 5:25 pm

i always wanted the steam as a fast attack ship or patrol ship

posted on January 7th, 2005, 9:45 pm

Yeah, lose the tro-cobalt torpedo and give her a medium Phaser and torpedo launcher, maybe the tri-cobalt as a special like on Intrepid. I don't know who started thinking it had one, some A2 designer got confused I guess.

[Fullphaser]

posted on January 23rd, 2005, 1:40 am

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I don't know and this is probably becuase I am bias and I will always play only as the fed's but the Akira and it's overpowerul defence is only for a few specific ships, as we know only 4-5 ships actually carry only torpedoes, and most ships carry a phaser of some kind anyway I think the idea of the feds being immuned to torpedo fire is a good thing as it keeps my fleets alive (when I play at some one else's house )

posted on January 23rd, 2005, 8:49 am

Im sure it does but that still isnt balanced, think about it this way, some borg dude comes to your base with 5 tac cube and some other ships. With this ships u can completely cut off ALL of the 5 tac cubes and think how much damage would they normaly do :S


I do like that torp per sec per ship idea

posted on January 25th, 2005, 3:28 pm

The Akira was armed with 15 Pulse fire Photon torpedo launchers..which fired approx. 1 torpedo a sec. the launcher would preload 4 torpedos..fire and then pause three seconds to load another 4. overall rate of fire is 1 torpedo a second.

I think most fed ships should fire a volley of photon torpedos...the galaxy class for instance uses the type 3 burst fire tube..which can launch up to 10 photon torpedos every five seconds. now Im not saying i want to see 10 photon torpedos launching...cause too many torps is bad..but maybe have ships launch volleys of three..

and i like the idea of the point defence..we don't see it much in startrek..cause if we did the enterprise would have faired better against the scimitar than it did..because worf would have been able to target the torpedos as they were coming in, instead of getting the Enterprise all beat to hell..lol.

i think it is too strong..but if the increase in sp energy fixes the problem...cool..if not, we can just increase the sp energy usage again..no big deal.

posted on January 25th, 2005, 8:19 pm

i like the idea of changing the steamrunner n akira... well i dont like the design of the steamrunner, maybe thats why, but i used them alot in the DS9 dom war game. and they had phaser there n no tricobalt torps.
and i like the design of the akira. its a tough lil ship if its used right, like some of u guys already explained. and i think it sucks that it dont got torps onboard, too. i dont wanna see the tricobalt torps on it, but at least some photon or quantum torps. and maybe take that pdp off it, or to make that way, that it can be research late in the game, when the other races get their big ships like the tac cubes and fusion cubes. cause in the later games stages its really useful, but not really at the beginning, cause the most ships at the beginning arent that powerful, but think about the shield-off-hitter-torps of the fusion cube for example. keep one akira in the fleet and its nearly useless if the fleet is well defended through other ships. but back to topic. give the akira some torps