Some Minor Changes (especially Ships), I Request

posted on May 25th, 2004, 1:22 pm

Hmmmm, nothing is known about the noxter as well, but if you don't want them back, thats your choice to make i guess, I don't really care about them that much, as long there are the borg and the dominion in the mod i'm happy

[Anonymous]

posted on May 25th, 2004, 3:58 pm

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Hmmm. In the Voyager series, it was 7 battleships, and a frigate in the center. Then they changed that to be 4-8 battleships and one frigate, for A2.

Well Optec, that is certainly your choice, but I agree with hyperion when we say that nothing is really known about the Noxter, and yet you have them. You are also currently working on a "not known alot about" race for Beta 3. The Dominion. The only thing we really know about them is what species makes up the Dominion, and that they are ruthless, and very powerful. We don't know they're EXACT origin, we don't know alot about the Vorta, and we don't know about the Jem'Hadar's past, and what made them, or brought them to this point where they are ruthless killing machines. But still, your choice Optec. Hope you reconsider. The mod is still awesome either way, and will always be. ^_^

posted on May 25th, 2004, 4:53 pm

hehe. well i think the difference between the dominion and species 8472 is, that the dominion has a character. (by the way we saw their origin, the planet of the founders.. okay, we don't know where the tool races like vorta and jem'hadar came from). We know the Founders created the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta or at least modified ther evolution with genetic engineering. The Dominion has a vile and evil character. a real face.
species 8472 is just something for a few episodes if you need something larger then the borg they don't even have a name

well for the noxter, of course you don't know much about them, cause they are a madeup race i know much about them and their storry will be part of the single player campaign. at the moment it's quite sure the noxter won't be replaced but come back in a future beta or an later patch for beta3.

Optec

posted on May 25th, 2004, 7:31 pm

Will you consider the cardassians to be added as a patch or in a later beta, but since you already have a plan wich races to inclube in the final game, and they all fit in the story, i guess the only way we could see the cardassians is by a race addon. We know almost everything about them, so you don't have to make things up, so i think they would be a very good addon.


And what are you talking about "larger than the borg", nothing is larger than the borg . The only reason they were kicking their ass is because the borg hasn't adapted to their weapons yet, in the long turn the borg would be victorious. Don't mock the Borg, or the Dominion in that matter, cause they would also win if the cardassians wouldn't turn on them.

posted on May 25th, 2004, 8:27 pm

They would have won anyway if the writters had let them

posted on May 25th, 2004, 9:45 pm

They would have won anyway if the writters had let them 

No argument from me!!!


You know what I really don't like in star trek is that the evil races become weaker and weaker, I mean just look at the borg, when they first met them 1 cube was able to go all the way to the earth without a scratch, and then you have voyager where cubes die like nobodys buissness. One could say the same about the dominion, when they first encounterd them they were all powerful and at the end of DS9, they were killing them very easily.

posted on May 26th, 2004, 4:49 am

i wonder what would happen if the borg assimilate the dominion... *thinkin*...by the point of cloning for the jem'hadar... *shakes his head* that would be god damn bad for all the others...

posted on May 26th, 2004, 1:42 pm

I guarenty they would beat the federation, the writers would make sure of that

[Stoned Rhyno]

posted on May 26th, 2004, 3:00 pm

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hehe. well i think the difference between the dominion and species 8472 is, that the dominion has a character. (by the way we saw their origin, the planet of the founders.. okay, we don't know where the tool races like vorta and jem'hadar came from). We know the Founders created the Jem'Hadar and the Vorta or at least modified ther evolution with genetic engineering. The Dominion has a vile and evil character. a real face.
species 8472 is just something for a few episodes if you need something larger then the borg  they don't even have a name

well for the noxter, of course you don't know much about them, cause they are a madeup race  i know much about them and their storry will be part of the single player campaign. at the moment it's quite sure the noxter won't be replaced but come back in a future beta or an later patch for beta3.

Optec

Good point,

but this also means, you should integrate the Cardassians as a playable race.
Since DS9, where they are one of the main plot-species, we know them very well.
They are a military species with ruthless methods, but to themselves they are very proud, family-friendly and have a sense of duty.
They are one of the main players in the alpha-quadrant, besides the federation, romulans and klingons.

I think, you should consider to give us cardassians to play, because nearly everyone here is requesting it.


The Breen, Species8472 and Ferenghi should not be only a Non-Player-Race, like many others. They should get a more important role. This doesn´t mean, to make them a fully playable race, but give them a more frequent and bigger appereance. Maybe as a AI-Controlled Enemy with its own interests, wich is fix in most of the maps.
And a appereance in the SP-Missions, but please more than once.

You are doing SinglePlayer-Campaigns? This mod gets even better.

posted on May 26th, 2004, 3:52 pm

yep, there are major and minor np races.
major np races like the breen, the ferengi and our old friends (the kazon for example) can appear on maps with their own bases, harvesting resources and building fleets independet from the selected players or AIs.
minor np races to mostly appear as single ships or small fleets.
the whole np thing will be a large job to do for beta4

yep i know many people like the cardassians. the race list for the final version is still not fixed and maybe they will become a playable race someday, but don't point at this post

we will try to get a singleplayer campaign for the final, but that's all just a plan till now.

optec