[Request/Balance] - Federation Warp-Ins

posted on May 19th, 2011, 4:56 pm

I would like the Nebula Rigel Refit and the Nova Rhode Island Refit to be a little more frequent.  Say 10 to 15% for each ship with the Nebula Rigel taking up warp-in slot 3, but leaving the Nova Rhode Island Refit at warp-in slot 1.  The Excelsior should have a reduced probability of coming in.

Also, the Nova Refit should be available with special research at Starfleet Engineering.  Taking 15-20 seconds to refit for about 1/3 of the cost of the original but 1/2 the supply cost of the original.  To build it, it should cost about 1 1/3 the total cost of the original and take 1 1/2 times the build time as the original.

For the special warp-ins, create a new set of slots with a maximum value of 7.  Then make it so that at max, 3 ships come in with a chance that only 2 ships will come in.  These "special" ships should be Steamrunner, Descent, Teutoburg, and Prometheus (when implemented).

[Anonymous]

posted on May 19th, 2011, 5:01 pm

Last edited by Anonymous on May 19th, 2011, 5:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

is there any particular reason you wanna vastly change warpins?

buildable nova refit: please no, small and spams quantums, its like an e2 but harder to kill and with a passive and with a special that would support spamming novae

increasing chances for rare warpins: again, why? they are rare for a reason, they are very useful ships. also we dont see them very often (EDIT: in canon that is). we saw the nova refit once, in a very silly episode where it was casually beating down 2 neghvar battleships in what can only be described as the complete opposite of a gang rape. we never saw the rigel refit as a ship, only as a model on a desk that could have been picard's first papier-mâché starship model (its real pain to find that bloody a with circonflexe: â).

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EDIT: clarification

posted on May 19th, 2011, 5:08 pm

please make Klingons more powerful! j/k.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 5:10 pm

please make Klingons more powerful! j/k.

if u klinks get a boost then i want roms to get a talshiar warpin where you request help at your starbase and 5 drhienns warp in to help.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 5:19 pm

The warp-in probabilities and choices are somewhat boring.  Plus, I don't have much of a reason to build the Norways.  The increased chance of the Nebula Rigel Refit plus the ship using a different slot than the Nova Rhode Island Refit gives me just the reason I need to build the Norways.

Also, maybe the special warp-ins should only be 2 vessels at a time with a special slot limit of 5 instead of 7.  It'll make it harder to get the Descent and Teutoburg class ships.

Maybe the Buildable/Refittable Nova could take up some refit slots if you think that they would be so overpowered.  The Nova isn't used anyways so I don't see the problem with making it buildable.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 5:39 pm

well they're boring because the warpin is a distress call.

you dont go:

"HEEEEELPPP, we need HEEEEEELP, but we'd prefer a nova refit, not one of those boring excelsiors you have dozens of nearby"

you cant order ships from starfleet, its not Pizza Hut.

a reason to build the norway: bugspam

thats just 1 of them. any adai spam, make norways, even if u dont use them as your dps dealer, have some to tank the damage.

who doesnt use novae? when i get feds as random and pick mayson (not very often lol) i try to make some novae. they are not located in a weird place to tech to, chassis 2 gives you them. mix with intreps (which are easy to keep alive after early game) and newly built akiras (which stay alive quite well with their special, forming a backbone for a long time). thats LOADS of torps, which all get more torps from the nova special. mix with warpins as well, they are torp spammers too. if you think the excel spams enough torps with its energy = more torp spam passive, add some novae to the mix and those borg will be in (kernel) panic.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 6:30 pm

The Excel isn't the reason I would build the Norway.  The Rigel Nebula is the reason.  Hit it with that emergency power and that's less time you have to wait for another turret.  Besides, I prefer the Rigel Nebula over the Rhode Island Nova.

I'm sure you at least understand my request for the special warp-ins with their own slots.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 6:58 pm

who said the excel was a reason to build a norway? i said use nova, not norway.

need moar torps: build a nova

enemy has adai spam: build a norway (or other support ship).

putting the rare warpins in a special slot makes them easier to get, you shouldnt be able to send a distress call expecting a certain breed of ship. if u put nova in slot 1 and rigel in slot 3, you still increase the chance to receive 1 of them.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 7:01 pm

Emergency Power + Rigel Nebula = Self-raped economy.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 7:02 pm

The warp-in probabilities and choices are somewhat boring.

 So again - you arbitrarily think something is boring and want it changed.  We've heard this before .

 Plus, I don't have much of a reason to build the Norways.

 And this fits your warpin request how?

posted on May 19th, 2011, 7:11 pm

Because the Norways can give special energy to the Rigel Nebulas.  Which means pulse turrets are put up quickly.  Like, 1 every 70 seconds.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 7:13 pm

Because the Norways can give special energy to the Rigel Nebulas.  Which means pulse turrets are put up quickly.  Like, 1 every 70 seconds.

if u wanna spend 60 supply go ahead. once you factor in the supply the rigel turrets dont cost far less.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 7:53 pm

Good point.  I'll have to capture some Borg Supply Generators.

posted on May 19th, 2011, 9:05 pm

Good point.  I'll have to capture some Borg Supply Generators.

Those are dominion...

posted on May 19th, 2011, 9:06 pm

That's the mining version, the Supply generators are Borg. Far more difficult to take...