Replacing Decent Class

posted on May 12th, 2006, 8:38 pm

lol an Olympic battleship?

Where do you come from, Mars?! ...Oh, wait...

posted on May 12th, 2006, 8:44 pm

NO the olimpic is added down lower and the sov replaces the decent. lol

yes North Sector pad 19.

posted on May 12th, 2006, 9:52 pm

NO the olimpic is added down lower and the sov replaces the decent. lol

Oh, ya had me worried there for a minute lol

posted on May 13th, 2006, 6:23 am

Though i could see it now.....convert the lower engin section to torpedo storage and the upper to engins and crew quarters, along with the bridge, then convert the sphere to masive cluster of phasers. and add tons of torp tubes.......hum.....

posted on May 13th, 2006, 11:11 am

NO the olimpic is added down lower and the sov replaces the decent. lol

Though is Sovie really so much stronger than Neghvar and D'deridex???

posted on May 13th, 2006, 2:10 pm

sovie stronger than a warbird, you better believe it , dont forget that during the whole of TNG they were talking about the D'deridex and Galaxy classes being about equal. and thus if the Sovie is quite a bit of an upgrade over tha galaxy then.... ownage. besides if the sovie replaced the descent, then the warbird wouldn't come into it... Tavara.

the Negh'var i dont know, difficult to tell. in terms of firepower probs a close win for the negh'var, but combat performance (manuevoring, speed, general layout of weapons etc...) i'd put my money on the sovie.

for me the sovie should definately be the feds most powerful individual ship.

posted on May 13th, 2006, 2:44 pm

Aye, Wasnt the Sov the first mogor combat vessel? used tec from the defient and all that? Desinied to take on the borg?

posted on May 13th, 2006, 5:58 pm

sovie stronger than a warbird, you better believe it tongue.gif , dont forget that during the whole of TNG they were talking about the D'deridex and Galaxy classes being about equal. and thus if the Sovie is quite a bit of an upgrade over tha galaxy then.... ownage. besides if the sovie replaced the descent, then the warbird wouldn't come into it... Tavara.

the Negh'var i dont know, difficult to tell. in terms of firepower probs a close win for the negh'var, but combat performance (manuevoring, speed, general layout of weapons etc...) i'd put my money on the sovie.

for me the sovie should definately be the feds most powerful individual ship.

The thing about D'deridex is that its constantly upgraded so in the time TNG was made it might be equal to galaxy but now I bet its stronger, much stronger
About Negh'Var, it was designed specifically for war - which sovie isnt and it isnt that much older either(if it is) so I really doubt the sovie is stronger, actually I think it is weaker. But Ill give sovie one thing over Negh'Var, its multifunctional whereas Negh'Var can only fight <----but its great at that

posted on May 13th, 2006, 6:15 pm

the galaxy was also upgraded, so i still think they are equal. the whole thing with the warbirds is that they are meant to scare opponants, hence their size. but in all reality they are pretty poor in combat, absolutely nowhere near what you would first think judging by their size. you could see by the losses that class sustained during the dominion war they were not all that.

posted on May 13th, 2006, 8:20 pm

the galaxy was also upgraded, so i still think they are equal. the whole thing with the warbirds is that they are meant to scare opponants, hence their size. but in all reality they are pretty poor in combat, absolutely nowhere near what you would first think judging by their size. you could see by the losses that class sustained during the dominion war they were not all that.

I think Rommies work more on upgrading than new ship designes, they see the D'deridexes design as a good basis for their future weapon systems, thats why they havent changed that design in a long, long time Its size is ment to scare the opposition but it also gives them A LOT of space to install new tech in

The dominion war casualties are so high because(I think) Rommies's entire fleet is based on these big arse battleships, but they have very few of them while dominion stragey is based on mass. We have also learned that it doesnt take a lot of bugs to kill a battleship, just ram it. And thats why they lost so many ships

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posted on May 17th, 2006, 3:22 am

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look, the nehvar is ALOT stronger than the sovie, based on the fact that it's the flagship of the klingon empire, the d'diredex is a close match with the sovie, it's also alot bigger than sovie, so we can assume it's firepower is greater, we must also keep in mind, that the neghvar and the d'diredex are strictly made for combat, they are battleships, that's all they are, but the sove is also an exploration vessel, so much of it's power and space is used for diagnostic tools and such stuff.

Therefore i agree that theese 3 ships should be sort of "balanced", sovie being "average"(medium range, good firepower and HP) and the neghvar having supreme firepower and high HP, but only short range, the d'diredex on the other hand, being a large vessel, should have superior HP and weaker weapons, but compensate it with medium range.

The Federation Supreme Commander has spoken!

posted on May 17th, 2006, 3:28 pm

lol, the warbird a match for a sovie???? *walks off laughing*

posted on May 17th, 2006, 6:58 pm

look, the nehvar is ALOT stronger than the sovie, based on the fact that it's the flagship of the klingon empire, the d'diredex is a close match with the sovie, it's also alot bigger than sovie, so we can assume it's firepower is greater, we must also keep in mind, that the neghvar and the d'diredex are strictly made for combat, they are battleships, that's all they are, but the sove is also an exploration vessel, so much of it's power and space is used for diagnostic tools and such stuff.

Therefore i agree that theese 3 ships should be sort of "balanced", sovie being "average"(medium range, good firepower and HP) and the neghvar having supreme firepower and high HP, but only short range, the d'diredex on the other hand, being a large vessel, should have superior HP and weaker weapons, but compensate it with medium range.

The Federation Supreme Commander has spoken!

huh, what?

no, no, no, no, no. that just doesn't sound right.

posted on May 17th, 2006, 9:12 pm

Khmmm based on combat I think Neghvar is the strongest next is sovie and the last is D'deridex <----simply because its getting too old :S

posted on May 18th, 2006, 1:16 am

but the sove is also an exploration vessel, so much of it's power and space is used for diagnostic tools and such stuff.

This is wrong, i refrence you to Star Trek the Magazine Val 3 Issue11 Page 43 Pargraf 3 Lines 1-5

The script for STAR TREK: FIRST CONTACT also gave him some important guidence It described the Enterprize-E as a more advanced, faster ship that was designed to fight the borg.

Also go to DITL and look at the specs... the sov is a powerfull ship.

ps: if you whant scans of the pages i quote jsut ask.