Descent class

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:27 am

Norways are good for attacking groups because one of the Specials it has is like the Ion Storm from the stock. The Assault mode makes it more effective against Stations and it can restore another ships special energy.

They're deadly for such a weak ship.

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:38 am

well that explains it.  i love that ship.  no point in even making the big shipyards anymore except for the quantum torpedo turrets.

on a side note would it be possible to have stabases equipped with quantum torpedoes since thats distiinctly federation.

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:41 am

Norway's are good, but won't win that often. It still has weak Shields and Hull to deal with.

[Dircome]

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:46 am

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no, descent is way overated, its firepower sucks, cant outgun a sovy


and its defense is only like 60, which is only half of tavara, it reallly dosent help, its not free, you have to build the station, and then wait to warp in descents and they dont do anything, 2 tavars could kile like 6 descents

Ray you sound foolish when you say things like that.
2 descents can kill a tavara without using their specials. the descent had about half hull left.
Also the defensive value of a descent (74) is one higher than that of a unupgraded tavara (73)

1 descent can easily kill a sovereign without its special. the descent had 3/4 of its shield left.
the offensive value of a sovereign (35) is only 1 higher than that of a descent (34) so it barely outguns it.

And just to finalize my point i put 2 tavaras up against 6 descents. without using its special the descents killed the 2 tavaras without losing any ships. the one that they were firing on had only 1/4 hull left but it was still alive.

Edit: i did another test with an upgraded tavara vs 2 descents in a straight up dogfight using specials the tavara can kill one of the descents and take out half the hull of the other. but using proper tactics i could have prevented having either of them destroyed.

posted on March 19th, 2009, 4:15 am

Not bad for a free ship 

(Still, Descents are best used in fleet manuevors, and not so much solitary action... though your results are very interestng  )

posted on March 19th, 2009, 6:51 am

dircome i highly doubt your testing, but either way, descent is way underpowerd, sure it has nice sheilds, but it attack sucks, and the tavar has alot of advatages over it, high defense, cool marines, alot better attack cloak,

and also the sovie thing, duh, but only cus it has more shields, and sovys need to be upgrade, cus seriously 36 for a descent, and 35 for a sovy sucks

now try a nevargh vs a sovie, and youll se my argument, nevargh kill sovie very easily hands down

posted on March 19th, 2009, 7:05 am

Ray, we can't have all the ships with the same stats, some ships are stronger, some are weaker. The feds ships are weaker, get over it. If all the the ships would have similar stats would be pretty boring, don't you think ? If this will happen, I will shift+delete the game and install vanilla A2. Or not... 

[Dircome]

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:20 pm

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dircome i highly doubt your testing, but either way, descent is way underpowerd, sure it has nice sheilds, but it attack sucks, and the tavar has alot of advatages over it, high defense, cool marines, alot better attack cloak,

and also the sovie thing, duh, but only cus it has more shields, and sovys need to be upgrade, cus seriously 36 for a descent, and 35 for a sovy sucks

now try a nevargh vs a sovie, and youll se my argument, nevargh kill sovie very easily hands down

I am sorry that my testing doesnt fit your argument. But if you dont believe me go test it yourself.

Edit: i did try a neg vs sov.

the first time neither ship used specials and the sov just brought down the negvars shields before it was destroyed.

the second time neither ship used specials and the sov destroyed the negvar. the only thing i changed was that i ordered the sov to run away when it was attacked. being faster and outranging the negvar the sov won.

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:33 pm

Why do some people think ships need Death Star-grade weapons to be good?

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:41 pm

Good question but if FO wants a Death Star i am all for it Finally something that can take out a Cube in one hit. I imagine the emperor would laugh if the borg told him resistance is futile

posted on March 19th, 2009, 2:45 pm

Until the Borg adapted.

posted on March 19th, 2009, 9:06 pm

lol the emperor orders "fire two" and it has no effect on the cube. this is followed by him lightning the nearest stormtrooper.

[Anonymous]

posted on March 19th, 2009, 9:55 pm

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Until the Borg adapted.

even adaptation has its limitations.
the shields have to be able to sustain the output not just the modulation.

the DS's primary laser would have the same effect as 8472's planet killers on the borg. adaptation would be irrelevant.

now the turbolasers of the standard SDs would be a different issue. interesting to see how that would work. especially since cubes are such large targets. if an SD were to bomb the cube with its many canons on a remodulating frequency it would be interesting if the cubes could weather the storm long enough to adapt.
once they did adapt the Sds would be space debris.

however, Palpy's force storm would eliminate all borg ships in teh sector w/o even needing the DS or the Sds... so ...
"the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be unnatural".
the STU's feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side. They will pay the price for their lack of vigil.

posted on March 20th, 2009, 1:12 am

however, Palpy's force storm would eliminate all borg ships in teh sector w/o even needing the DS or the Sds... so ...
"the dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities, some consider to be unnatural".
the STU's feeble skills are no match for the power of the dark side. They will pay the price for their lack of vigil.

He has limits, the Borg are endless.

posted on March 20th, 2009, 2:24 am

He has limits, the Borg are endless.

lol. what does that even mean?

a force storm and all the ships are gone. guess his limits suffice to end the endless borg lol