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posted on May 17th, 2009, 1:27 pm

sound nice mark but can u show it with a video or something like...vs a good fed player

well if you want me to find a good fed player i can't play you then 

ill play a game with mort or someone and show you what i mean, ill even be ur beloved romulan since ur other fav race klingon is rubbish once spamming B'rel nd K'vorts is no good because of canaverals and so on (move to slow to get away from sensor blackout) and have a slow fire rate anyway...

Noob question: Seeing as I never get the chance to play online, what speed does everyone play at?!
I've always used the notch below half-way, it's just always seemed the coolest looking/most fun. Any faster and it becomes less fun and too much clicking, slower and it's too long to wait for anything to happen

most people play at speed 4 (one up from the centre) but now most are moving to gamespeed 3 for better micro... you need to get used to 3 and speed 2, the one your playing at will be no good...

I have no problem with erasing the plasma coil ability for the norway completlty. BUT the rest of it should stay as it is. The romulans have its spam ship and even so, you can take norways for spam ships. Now, the klingons and the dominion need a spam-ship too and everything is okay

they have already created a solution in 3.0.6... right now the plasma coild does the same damage to all ships, so if its 80, every ship is damaged by 80... in 3.0.6 it will be devided by the ships in the field, so if you have 8 ships, it'll be 80/8 so only 10 damage each

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posted on May 17th, 2009, 5:06 pm

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Here's a video representation of what happened yesterday! 

posted on May 17th, 2009, 5:24 pm

Holy balls...that's not even fair!

posted on May 17th, 2009, 5:31 pm

to be fair, they were all bunched together and attacked two ships when ur norways were clearly waiting...

he should of had his ships spread more and sent them to the norways forcing them to fire their plasma but had his fleet spread thin...

posted on May 17th, 2009, 5:46 pm

Holy balls...that's not even fair!

I was laughing so hard after this. I saw his fleet coming and I thought [glow=red,2,300]OH MY GOD!!! [/glow] But then I did this! How ironic! 

posted on May 17th, 2009, 6:10 pm

to be fair, they were all bunched together and attacked two ships when ur norways were clearly waiting...

he should of had his ships spread more and sent them to the norways forcing them to fire their plasma but had his fleet spread thin...

easier said than done. with internet connections the ships move after about 1-2 secs. once they start moving boom ure dead cos the plasma also has area coverage.

posted on May 17th, 2009, 6:18 pm

Maybe splitting the ships into smaller groups a short distance apart? If they use the area effect weapon, they can only hit a few ships.

posted on May 17th, 2009, 7:29 pm

Yup, awful isn't it. Actually Mark made a good point though: by carefully microing small fleets (4-8 units) you can avoid the Norways plasma to a certain extent... However, once your opponent has more than 10 Norways, there is no way to avoid Plasma unless your opponent is really bad at micromanagement.

@ Tyler: fleets must be spaced much more than a short distance, because area of effect is short range for 5 seconds.

posted on May 17th, 2009, 8:00 pm

This would be realy bad when following the "group em together" strategy when playin as Borg.

posted on May 17th, 2009, 8:02 pm

Borg have no trouble against plasma though, keep that in mind. You need 8 plasmas to take down 1 scout cube 

posted on May 17th, 2009, 8:07 pm

i dont see y we are still talking about this issue, but let me say again as i earlier stated, you can counter it

in the video we just saw, his oppenant made some mistakes,

#1 he didnt keep them moving

#2 he let them group into one small group

and also he shoulda attack norways first with his specials, or cloaked, and suprised the norway, theres more then one way to counter norways,

and im sorry but fof in numbers is just as devestating, i had 12 ships go down, one including a descent from fof by only a few luspets, and the other 4 ships were damaged, in fact fof is more powerful it goes directly through the hull of the ship, but the plasma coil has to go through the sheilds first

posted on May 18th, 2009, 12:59 pm

Borg have no trouble against plasma though, keep that in mind. You need 8 plasmas to take down 1 scout cube 

..as we just saw yesterday 

posted on May 18th, 2009, 5:31 pm

i still hope the FO staff reads my suggestion and doesnt totally nerf the norways

posted on May 18th, 2009, 5:40 pm

and im sorry but fof in numbers is just as devestating, i had 12 ships go down, one including a descent from fof by only a few luspets, and the other 4 ships were damaged, in fact fof is more powerful it goes directly through the hull of the ship, but the plasma coil has to go through the sheilds first

Note that the Lus'Pets are much more expensive than norways and they come into the play much later in the game. Whats the point if you cant actually get to them cause all your early fleet got munched up by the norways

i still hope the FO staff reads my suggestion and doesnt totally nerf the norways

They have already said what they will do to make them more balanced. And not just them either, all AOE weapons (except Bortas and Hyperspace artillery).
Judging from how they perform now, they deserve to be totally nerfed, IMHO of course.

posted on May 18th, 2009, 6:27 pm

agreed. which is why Optec did mention he would consider the class and cost of research when nerfing them... so FOF may not get as nerfed as plasma coil...

after all an innocuous little french fry of a ship like the Norway, actually burning off battleships like vorchas is - well