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posted on May 4th, 2005, 3:30 pm

remember aswell star trek use phasers which are almost 100 times stronger than a laser, a laser would have a job to get through a trek shield, and you see how easy ties are destoryed, a few hits and boom!

posted on May 4th, 2005, 5:30 pm

Remember that the Empire has millions of starships. Also, the Emperor and Darth Vader would be more of a match for anyone, even the Borg and the Jem'hadar.

posted on May 4th, 2005, 5:34 pm

lol but it would be like nats against a shiney uv light, the nats are there inforce and are anoying you (and the borg anoying them back with the nanites from a2 (see nanites thead) and the uv lite (trek) is just killing them all taking little to no damage from the nats

posted on May 4th, 2005, 7:23 pm

Lasers do suck, but 250 turbo lasers can tear some stuff up. Throw into that equation 250 ion cannons and 250 concussion missile launchers, and you got yourself the arament of a Executor class Super Star Destroyer. That will definately take out about 10 federation ships.

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posted on May 4th, 2005, 10:29 pm

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remember aswell star trek use phasers which are almost 100 times stronger than a laser, a laser would have a job to get through a trek shield, and you see how easy ties are destoryed, a few hits and boom!

i do remiber a episode of TNG wher the ncc-1701-d lowered it shealed wile the enamy ships had chaged wepinds and wher threting to atck with 3 ships the reson was the enamy ships wepinds wher lasers.

captin sed thay suse lasers thay cant evin hert the hall.


PD: Lasers do suck, but 250 turbo lasers can tear some stuff up. Throw into that equation 250 ion cannons and 250 concussion missile launchers, and you got yourself the arament of a Executor class Super Star Destroyer. That will definately take out about 10 federation ships.

thats whay i say thay are like the kazon from VOG.

the only uther race i ran remiber that use misals wher the frigi in a episod of TNG. the misals in that episode wher prity efetive thay help do a good amont of damage to the Ncc-1701-d. but with missals depinds on the war hed if lasers are the uther wepind thay use the misals cant be two strong in star wars but thay whood bestronger than lasers.
and if thay are moshon detetion misals remote misals or heat seeking misals thare are whays to confuse tham with sinser ecose and holgrafic perjections.

posted on May 4th, 2005, 11:31 pm

They didn't say how large these lasers were, or how powerful they would actually be against a galaxy class starship, which isn't exactly unshielded. Essentially I think 20 turbos is worth a type 9 or 10 laser from a large trek ship. Thats at the very least.

[ewm90]

posted on May 5th, 2005, 12:15 am

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and what hapinds if a race of star trek ship made a merer sheld that whood reflect lite back at its sorece. thay cood do this with holagrafic tecnolagy wich is basted of of biding lite, clocking devises allso work by bining lite it whood not be a big jump to make a meror sheld.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 1:08 am

oh dear... I see a stars thread on the horizon (woot I love to do this) ok dokey lets get into the basics here, these millions of Star Destroyers per say.... ummm hummm. something about Return of the Jedi really throws that off, even the biggest conflict between the empire and the Rebels according to whats left of the cannon movie series (the now six movies that make up star wars, what else you count as cannon is beyond me) but as far as I could tell I only say 30 - 90 star destroyers tops. and we are talking most of the rebel fleet which didn't seem to that have that many ships. Especially not "millions per say". Second slight problem with this lovely power situation that everyone loves to argue "oh the death star can destroy a big planet, it must have a big ass gun... bigger than anything your gay star trek ships have" (thanks Justin for the lovely quote) well I am forced to argue the whole problem of hey did you just see the enterprise melt through a crater with a phaser, and hell it wasn't that small either. it was hiding something.. Hmmm I wonder if one starshipp could melt through one hell of a meteor I wander what big starbases can do, just something to ponder in the back of your heads, there. Second point its a general assumptino that the Feds and all of them don't have that much to spare, oh somewhere on the lovely ex astris scientia site they had a fed fleet prediction (including merchant ships) at about 12,000 at any one time. so I don't think they'll miss ten ships to take out the flaship of the emprie, Second problem, star wars tactics in general seem to rely on fighters, granted there are fighters in star trek, (big ones at that) but when you have a carrier based system you suffer from one essintial flaw, flagships are powerless in terms of actuall fire power, I assume that you got that outrageous number of weapons for the 1 confirmed SSD off a manual, which is great and all, but there is a slight problem thre is 1 ssd with great and almighty weapon and god knows how many star destroyers, but none of there weapons seem to exceed 2 thousand tera joules, which would make them quite useless aginast those lovely things we call shields... yeah I'd ramble on some more but this topic was about something else completly different.

Enterprise - I only can say that it seemed a bit far off the beatan path probably because they didn't have much to work with in terms of really great wars and plots (except the romi one but that is later i think) but it is a star treck show, not the greatest granted, but Gene been dead for a while now, and I don't know if anyone will ever be able to replace him...

[ewm90]

posted on May 5th, 2005, 2:32 am

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you can say that but thats mostly threay,

with the deth star it needs to fier at a taret that will be in a serton place at a serton time. most star trek ships use avsive mon-overs.

i will not agrowe the pont that thare are wepinds that can do huge amonts of damage evin distoy alot of star trek ships. but thay all have weneeses that star trek tech can deel with most of tham thare are a few thay will have to fite thowe.

2 thousand tera joules a star ship of the feds used more than that we whood be tolking unijoules or biger.


star ships can traval grater distanses faster.
star trek ships have self repare capabiltys with a repilcater endless spily of parts.
star trek ships have asom sinser that scan closer/detaled and ferther awhay.
star trek ships comunications sytoms are beter being abul to cut thow dampaning feeld and tolk over distanses that star wars ships cant traval.
star trek wepinds are more efective batal wepinds shooting in all dretions with stuning accresy.

all thes advatiges whood meen and easy and desive end to all camnd strutchers in a star wars army.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 10:12 am

Well ewm every advantage you gave the star trek ships is actually theory.

Star wars ships can actually go faster seeing as how they have hyperdrives.
Star wars ships have a ton of spare parts and crews of I think 75,000 on star destroyers.
Star wars ships Have huge sensor arrays, which are probably better then star trek.
I don't know where you picked this up, they have this thing called the holonet.
Well thats about the only thing that made sense.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 12:56 pm

but the moleom falcon was suposted to be the fasted ship arwnd its top speed was lite speed wich is = to warp 1.

thats trow keeping all those spar parts takes up space and alls so meens thay will have to come back to home part from time to time to relode.

that whood be unlicky see thay have to get reports on whay the enamy fleet are doing insted of just going to a comuputer console.

in episode 2 the jeti that crashes on a planet cant get thow to the peron he wonted to tolk to he was two far awhay star teck whood have ben easly abule to make the conetion.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 4:08 pm

Hyperspace can let you reach one side of the galaxy from another in a matter of weeks, so SW ships are alot faster.

SW ships are huge, and with all those spare parts replication isn't needed.

WTF you think is covering the bridge of an ImpStar single?

Thats because they were jamming his signal, jesus...

posted on May 5th, 2005, 5:28 pm

you know what PD agwing with you is fewtile i not ev in gona tray. i think your rong tho.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 5:46 pm

After reading Fullphaser's post, I must note that in terms of Star Wars, there's more to SW than the movies. Everything that is the movies and beyond is actually considered canon. There are books and television specials. This is all confirmed on the SW website: www.starwars.com Look up the databank, and look up "beyond the movies". It's all canon, and the only imperial ships in the Battle of Endor were part of Vader's elite fleet, so there are many more ships in the imperial fleet.

posted on May 5th, 2005, 7:18 pm

Well ewm I KNOW your wrong, and I also think your an idiot. Star wars was my first passion, and still is. I know wtf i'm talking about.

There arn't just the 3 differant imperator class destroyers in the empire either. You have Lancer class anti fighter frigates, Old republic dreadnoughts, 2 types of Victory class destroyers, 2 types of Nebula B frigates, Corellian corvettes of all types, Escort carriers, Corona frigates, Star galleons, Carrack cruisers, Strike cruisers, Interdictor cruisers. I mean there are alot more of these then the star destroyers.