The Borg across series/movies

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posted on December 29th, 2010, 3:31 pm
well the dialogue says that data:

locks out the computer with an encryption code.

what exactly that means is debatable. he cant encrypt the entire computer since it remains on. maybe only the stuff that runs the ship was encrypted. we simply dont know since its hard to pin down trek to specifics.

it seems like what he did was simply make the computer only accept orders/commands from people who can supply a long password, a password that only data knows.

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posted on December 29th, 2010, 4:44 pm
Exactly you cant encript the main computer, picard tell him to lockout the main computer and later when chatting with the borg queen he tells her you will never be able to cypher the encription codes from his nueral net or something.

But im also pretty possible the command codes were mentioned and they were what was encripted altho it has been sometime since i watched the movie, because as as myles said it doesnt make sense to encript the main computer.
posted on December 29th, 2010, 4:53 pm
they never mentioned the phrase command codes in dialogue.

with what little, poor quality information we were given in dialogue, its very difficult to determine anything useful.

i just think of it as data putting a really long password on the computer.
posted on December 29th, 2010, 9:42 pm
Yea i would guess just a really long password because later on he when he was talking with the queen he said that they wouldn't be able to get past it. But just remember he is Data and he does what he wants
posted on December 29th, 2010, 10:28 pm
Data isolated the main computer with a fractal encryption code.  Which means that you can still use the main computer, but you can't reroute any of the controls to other stations because the command codes to reroute the controls have been scrambled up by the encryption code.  That's basically what encryption does, is scramble things up.  The fractal part just reinforces the encryption.  Which is why the Borg had such a hard time with it.

So, with the commands necessary to reroute controls to other stations being scrambled up, the Borg couldn't use them because the computer didn't recognize them.  Once decrypted, the computer recognized the commands.
posted on December 29th, 2010, 10:49 pm
I bet the code was "penisface" anyway. What would be a better disguise than an insult from the suave Picard?
posted on December 29th, 2010, 10:51 pm
What would be better? How about 'NeverSurrender' or 'DieFighting'?
posted on December 29th, 2010, 11:37 pm
TCR_500 wrote:Data isolated the main computer with a fractal encryption code.  Which means that you can still use the main computer, but you can't reroute any of the controls to other stations because the command codes to reroute the controls have been scrambled up by the encryption code.  That's basically what encryption does, is scramble things up.  The fractal part just reinforces the encryption.  Which is why the Borg had such a hard time with it.

So, with the commands necessary to reroute controls to other stations being scrambled up, the Borg couldn't use them because the computer didn't recognize them.  Once decrypted, the computer recognized the commands.


nearly all what you said is conjecture and you cant prove any of it. :woot:

i CAN disprove some of it though.

if it was only the ability to transfer control of important system to new locations that was unavailable to the borg, then these systems must be controllable from somewhere. if that somewhere is the bridge then why did they stop only at the deflector, they could have continued to the bridge and took control of the ship. so its more than just the ability to transfer controls from one location to another that was passworded.

presumably the ship was left in a state where nobody could use any of the important systems (engines, guns etc, sonic showers, doors and holodecks were unaffected) until data puts in his long password.

fractal was just put in to sound cool, cos fractals are not simple.
posted on December 30th, 2010, 12:37 am
I'd make the password 'Resistance is Puppies'.

Let's see the Borg try the 'completely irrational phrases' route.
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