Galaxy Should be Buildable

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:03 am

Oh she is a beautiful, capable chassis, but one made for diplomacy, ambassadorial  and science. Oh and drawing fire.

[Redshirt]

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:30 am

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Put me down in the anti-Galaxy faction, I guess. I love the ship (it's a force to be reckoned with after it ranks), but I don't feel like making it buildable would be a worthwhile change.

For one thing, the Feds don't really need it. Their strength lies in their mobility and resiliency; while the Galaxy is very mobile as a warp-in, when considered outside of that role, it's pretty much just a huge target. It's not all that tough, and matches up poorly against just about anything smaller than it is. As a Fed player, I wouldn't build them if given a choice. If I needed a larger torpedo-armed ship, I'd pump out Akiras. If I needed a late-game hammer, I'd tech up to Defiants.

It occurs to me that I'll probably be stoned for bringing up gameplay in a canon whine-a-thon, but I'm sticking to my guns.

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:47 am

We like the Galaxy Class and i think its spot in the Warp-In feature is an excellent place for this vessel, were all vessels land that are still in service, but don't have active production programs

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:48 am

The United States Navy continues to operate many aged ships.  This does not mean they continue to build them ...

 Iowa and Missouri class Battleships, for example, were built in significant numbers for their times as the general consensus was that Battleships were great.  WW2 proved that Aircraft carriers were the wave of the future and few battleships were ever built again.

 Doesn't mean that it wasn't a great vessel, just no longer the "right tool for the job"

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 9:17 am

exactly. And - in the Fleet Operations universe - a lot changed in the galaxy during the Dominion War. Major fleets of many empires were at the Dominion borders, leaving room for minor stellar forces, shady companies or pirates. Diplomatical issues dont help to improve the situation and the economy of most larger stellar forces - like the federation - is stressed to its limits after the giant efforts required to overcome the Dominion. A war like the Dominion war is not won and all returns to normal. The aftermath might be more difficult then the actual combat situation, as its far more subtile and assymetric. A lot of development changed accordingly, including starship design.

More about the background stories in future news posts!

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 1:21 pm

Why not just invent new classes based on the old classes, then you can make them fit into whatever background/story/canon you require.  You can have a new Galaxy II class which is a bit like a squashed Intrepid-Galaxy hybrid.

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 1:59 pm

Why not just invent new classes based on the old classes, then you can make them fit into whatever background/story/canon you require.  You can have a new Galaxy II class which is a bit like a squashed Intrepid-Galaxy hybrid.

Humm... with the Galaxy not being a very popular design of Starfleet (all FO's -II's are used for vessels which were built in very large numbers and which had a very long service-time) I doubt there'd be a Galaxy-II as well.
It was a great design perfectly representative for the federations traditions - but no very successful workhorse (especially if you consider many of the very few Galaxy-class vessels were destroyed in combat-situations like the Odyssey and even the Enterprise-D and several ones in the Dominion-war). In battle the Galaxy is nothing but a retaliating red-shirt that can hold itself for a while. Based on this, Starfleet would probably not field anything similar again unless it's part of a final stand in a crucial core-system or "the only ship in range". The remaining vessels of this class could easily be decommissioned by Starfleet to get a new role in the federation-civil fleet to be what it was on the show: A moving city.

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 2:08 pm

Really good news, but it's a shame TNG ships like the Galaxy are still going to be a middle of the road ship.

To me, the Galaxy should be a shield tank class that hold the line. As we saw in the Dominion war, they did a very good job as a heavy hitter and holding the lines at the Battle of Cardassia.

The Warbird, on the other hand, didn't seem to do so hot compared to the Galaxy. The flagship, D'Ridthau was in fact destroyed when the Romulan fleet lines began to collapse.

So the Galaxy should be holding fleet lines vs the Warbird.

...I still have nightmares of Galaxy spam. And these Galaxies were from warpins!
No, no! Make them stop! *sob*

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 2:11 pm

All Galaxys destroyed were in odd events that would take down any other ship just as easily, and none were seen destroyed during the war. Why do people try to change canon?

Seen any others 'redshirts' blow large chunks out of a Cube?

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 3:33 pm

All Galaxys destroyed were in odd events that would take down any other ship just as easily, and none were seen destroyed during the war.

It was really odd that the Enterprise-D wasn't overpowering an old D-12 with a torpedo-barrage in seconds

[MrXT]

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 3:39 pm

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I personally think that the Galaxy would be nearing the end of it's life span. It WAS a monster, but never meant for war. It was not built as a war ship. It is large , ungainly, and slow. FO takes place many years after all the movies and shows (~20yrs, I think?). Galaxy chassis were retired. No more would be built. There were only like 8, I think, when the Dominion War started.

I think the Prometheus should be in. It is a sleek warship, fast, modern, attractive, and CANON! they are simply ignored for reasons usually dealing with MVAM. Well, we can always say MVAM SUCKED and so starfleet operated them without it. It is still the fastest, best armed warship in the TNG/Voyager era. It had regenerative shielding, quantums, powerful phasers, redundant power cores, and something similar to Fast Tracking Computers or ADAI. ( source: memory alpha {The Prometheus-class was designed with an unprecedented level of automation, and, combined with its advanced tactical systems, was one of the most powerful combat ships in the Alpha Quadrant}) I think it is bizarre that the Federation would actually BUILD a prototype ship, and abandon using it. They spent YEARS researching and building this ship, to say NAAAH...

LOL RIIIIGHT..... 

Nonesense, the deridex is the oldest ship in the romulan fleet serving for decades and has just been refitted for each generation and is still up there with the best. During the dom war the galaxy was refitted to be a battleship and performed outstandingly against more modern ships and then some to say its reached the end of the line is ridiculas its a refitted modern ship from the same era.

I would love to see a buildable galaxy next to the excell 2 in the eraudi yard but i think the feds have enough ships really. Other races need more attention.

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 7:11 pm

The only reason that the D'deridex is still around is because of the lazy bastards at Paramount who didn't want to design and model a new Romulan ship. Eventually, they came around, and we got the Norexan.

[Anonymous]

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 7:49 pm

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I could never get used to having the Galaxy as a warp in. Nearly every time I called for a warp-in, I would get an Ambassador, or Nebula (sensor variant). I would rarely get a Galaxy. Also, the Galaxy operated like a low-powered frigate rather than an explorer/battleship. So all I am saying is if it's rare, and not going to be buildable, at least make it worth it. One all rounded Galaxy isn't going to make a bit of a difference in a multi-player game and when it's destroyed it costs you supplies. That outweighs the benefits of even having it around except to guard the base along with the Centaur (which is kind of cheesy).

So much could be done with that class of vessel yet its fate is to be doomed to a warp-in slot?? 

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:19 pm

Put me in the "neutral" a.k.a. "Not going to touch that hot potato by making a choice".

The Galaxy was a nice design, but i never really cared for it. Personally i prefer my designs to be sleek or purpose combat orientated.

It was a capable design, but during the dominion war and certainly 20 years after nowhere near a powerhouse.

I won't shed a tear if it stays warp-in, but i think it'd be a shame if it was removed from the warp-in.
No losses as far as I'm concerned if it is not made buildable, but if it is made buildable it should have a special function to reflect its status as former flagship of the fleet.

Mobile command center or sensor upgrades that sort of thing. No monster stats though.

posted on December 22nd, 2011, 8:25 pm

The Galaxy is actually the second-best regular warp-in you can get, right after the Ambassador. It's almost like these newfangled defensive profile ships we'll be seeing in that it draws fire away from the heavy-hitters while drawing the enemy out of position.

Also, the Galaxy was never a battleship, but 'merely' an explorer; while it can handle combat, it was not built with that purpose in mind. The Enterprise-D was routinely challenged by ships much smaller than itself (two b'rels in "Rascals", if I recall) so canon complaints are doubly invalid.