Bop Versus A Warbird?

posted on November 5th, 2004, 4:46 am

D'Tai? cairo1 told me you made it up.
did you?

posted on November 5th, 2004, 10:19 am

lol no it's a real ship all right, lemme find pic...



Thats the only time it's been used in an episode I believe. Only 12 ever made because of structural integrity problems if I recall.

[DOCa Cola]

posted on November 5th, 2004, 11:39 am

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thats from "The Defector" - i remember, the romulans had quite respect back then

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Picard refuses Tomalak's demands that the crew surrender and, at a prearranged moment, three Klingon warships uncloak, surrounding the Romulan ships. The odds stacked against him, Tomalak backs down and retreats, promising Picard that they will meet again. Knowing that his defection has cost him his family and his homeland, a despondent Jarok commits suicide.

DOCa Cola

posted on November 5th, 2004, 12:39 pm

Ok think of it like this... a Galaxy Class is about an even match for a Warbird... a BOP has no chance against a galaxy class (sept if Diana Troi is driving)

BOPs are fast and maneuverable a warbird isnt... but all together, I think BOP's are strong in numbers but not on they're own

posted on November 5th, 2004, 5:25 pm

indd bops are good in numbers, cloaking and decloaking making devastating attacks, maybe 2 or 3 bops can fight off a warbird but 1 bop is outgunned, even if you are manauvrable you can't win if you don't have enough shields to witstand an attack

posted on November 6th, 2004, 1:51 am

ummm.......in that pic, those are K'vort.....

posted on November 6th, 2004, 12:27 pm

I thought K'vorts were a lot smaller than that.

posted on November 6th, 2004, 12:42 pm

We should all know onscreen scale doesn't exactly matter much in the ST universe, especially in TNG. Those could well be K'vorts, scaled up for dramatic effect, to make them more menacing.

As for the original question - One BoP is simply not enough to beat a Warbird. Three might make it. The only thing single BoPs are really useful for is pounding ships called Enterprise.

posted on November 6th, 2004, 5:37 pm

well ther where different types of hips that look just like a BOP but isn't like the k'vort so who can tell if it is a BOP in teh pic.


but if a BoP wants a death wish then it would fight a warbird

[RFO Cairo1]

posted on November 6th, 2004, 7:52 pm

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I still dont believe their is a D'tai class i think they are K'vorts with lumpy
they are probly just in a diffrent perspiceteve

posted on November 6th, 2004, 9:46 pm

i also think those a k'vort's

posted on November 7th, 2004, 2:34 pm

You're all forgetting that most ships cant fire at close range.

Remember the ds9 episode when they went to the parallel universe, the defiant class defeated the negh'var class. (Made it run away)

I think with constant close attacks inside the shield, it could do lots of damage.. Not to mention the cloak. Cloak and come up right underneath near its power core, pop a few torpedoes and a disrupter barage.

posted on November 7th, 2004, 4:19 pm

i dont think a ship can move thru shields of another ship, that would be illogical since then a torpedo wich is also mass would go right thru the shields and hit the hull....

posted on November 7th, 2004, 4:42 pm

Shields are meant to fend off energy bursts or smaller objects, but something the size of a ship? besides the defiant class outguns a BOP B'rel or k'vort, A D'tai, ... well... lets say, a D'Derix class warbird (carfull there, Warbird is a comon name for romulan ships/capitol ships, expecialy since they have new ones now.) is evenly matched some what with a galaxy class, a D'tai by the sounds of its maneuverability and wepaons even with a galaxy, only thing with both tipping it against the galaxy realy is a cloaking device wich both the romulans and klingons have. So D'derix vs D'tai prety even, But a D'tai against a newer class of warbird, It tipps more to the romulans.

posted on November 8th, 2004, 2:26 am

i dont think a ship can move thru shields of another ship, that would be illogical since then a torpedo wich is also mass would go right thru the shields and hit the hull....

Massive objects can indeed penetrate the shields, like when the NCC-1701-E Collided with the Scimatar when the Scimatar's shields were at 70%. Torpeodes are smaller, thus will be affected by starship shields.