Katrina

posted on September 16th, 2005, 11:25 am

[ol type='i'][*]pepal how will do things like not under cut funnding for needed projects or [*]programes. [*]pepal how will not get us in to wars with out a way out. [*]pepal how polerize this contry. [*]pepal how will not scroow the pore. [*]pepal how will not ingnore pepal of color. [*]some one whood kares about whons rights. [*]some one how cares about ower servis man and woman. [*]some one how will make a real efert to mend relations with the international comunity. [*]some one how will take a hard line on polution. [*]some one how will get us jobs back in the us.[*]some one how respects religon but is not govered by it.[*]some one how will respect the right to freedom and basic freedoms for americans.[*]some one how will not loos site of whats makes america america.[*]some one how will redusee pork barile spinding and larg tax cuts for the rich.[/ol]thats a good small list to star.

posted on September 16th, 2005, 12:10 pm

And possible if we had 5 times the income we currently have, the middle east didn't exist, we used some sort of wonder fuel, didn't have any bigots in this country, and I think a few other things. Thank god someones a realist around here...

[Cpt Ryan]

posted on September 16th, 2005, 2:15 pm

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lol PD.

@ewm : (iii) there is always a way out of a war. you either win or lose it.
iv) whats "polerize"?
v)the dangers of living in a capitalist society im affraid, its the same in the UK
xiv) that depends on the individual, what do you think makes America, america?
xv) not trying to be an @ss but please translate that one for me.

[Aesir]

posted on September 16th, 2005, 5:12 pm

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You can technically blame everyone and also technically blame no one for the levees. President for not telling someone to fix it, FEMA for being kinda late on the rescuing, Corp of engineers for not informing anyone that the levees would break. Of course out of the 3, the democrats go for their favorite target, BUSH.

Big governments take much longer to pass laws, solve problems, get things done, cost alot more money, etc etc. Ours is too large as it is, I know how you democrats love your huge communist style governments where everyone is supposibly equal, but history shows us that failed badly.

Escuse me? since when did they not inform people. YEARS ago the corp of engineers tried to tell people but it got pushed to the side since nobody wanted to assign money. Get your facts straight please. I know for a fact that they DID make a report of it.

I don't know much of whats going on there but honestly haphazard accusations won't help anything.

posted on September 16th, 2005, 9:37 pm

Well Aesir, apparently no one did anything about it and hence it was forgotten. If it was a long time ago it doesn't surprise me no one informed the proper officials when this hurricane came. No need to get all hardass on me there buddy.

[Aesir]

posted on September 16th, 2005, 10:22 pm

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yeah ok well in 1960 there was another decent hurricane in that area and even then they tried to say the levees were lacking. so government at its best

posted on September 16th, 2005, 11:24 pm

I herd a disterbing report about polution levals.

polution quite well have played a role in Katrina size and strinth. the waters are geting wormer and wormer. this cood meen biger hericans and more of tham more offin.

we need to get a presadent that cares alot about pultion or we mite loos more us citys.

posted on September 17th, 2005, 12:19 am

Lol I never get tired of hearing that one, and somehow polution can get blamed on the president also. Oh thank you ewm, I needed that.

[ewm90]

posted on September 17th, 2005, 3:19 am

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the presadent has removed pulison amisons pertection. and has increested ower use of fosoal fule. and has deforsitatisan. and meny uther things.

[[TD]Roach]

posted on September 17th, 2005, 6:24 am

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again politics thread and not going about a tornado. besides, pullution is something the people can change nota president. i mean follow the governator he is doing something for pollotion. Instead his SUV doing 1 gallon per mile with his car like all americans, he has a hybrid card with hydrogen fuel and now does 1 gallon per 2 miles. almost every american rides a very ineffecient car that pollutes like ****.

but pollution isn't a cause of hurricanes. the carebean is a place that is haunted by hurricanes around this period. same with tornado alley and the east side of china. if that was the cause of pollution then even before there where big industries and cars, there would have been socalled pollution in the water or air. besides i gues tornado alley must be the most poluted part of the world then because they have alot of tornado's. If there wasn't pollutions there would still be tornado's and earthquakes and floods, it is a NATURAL PHENOMENOM.

All this states is the way your linear mind works, everytime there is a major disaster happened whether in america or indonesia or in the US. Where the US is involved, you pin every mistake on the president. ofcourse there are always screw ups during those things. no rescue plan for disaster is full proof because you can't not simmulate and prepair for everything. Besides it isn't only the presidesnt fault people knew in orleans that if there was a big hurricane or flood that Orleans would be flooded for weeks but people where ignorent to do anything about it because we all think it won't happen to me. Look at San fransisco. it has a major fault line and it is predicted that there will be such a major earthquake there that it will be a disaster site just like orleans but you don't see people not wanting to live there, they just go build there house without insurance or quake protection. Who want to live in tornado alley without propper shelters? most people don't have them and that is why there are alot of deaths there but people still want to live there.

so anyway i am sure ewm has something to dissaprove my ideas or find something else to talk about. but anyway if there was a democratic president on the seat this term instead of Bush, he would be in the same ****** position because they wheren't prepaired. Orlando would still be underwater. he couldn't use his magic wand and save orlando in one term not even in 2. unless you are psychic.

posted on September 17th, 2005, 11:38 am

this is the Katrina thred will toy stop calling it names roch!

1) hybridos dont work that well.

2) pollution duss not cose herican worm water duss and pution worms water.

3) you dont have a nuff facts. and you are mixing you what i was saying.

posted on September 17th, 2005, 12:01 pm

yeah ok well in 1960 there was another decent hurricane in that area and even then they tried to say the levees were lacking. so government at its best

the 60s huh? well i'm sure thats got to the top of the agenda by now
hey i don't exactly like Bush either but even i can concede that he couldn't have done anything about the Levees in the 60s. surely if your gonna go on that you should blame EVERY other President who has been in office since that time, not just Bush (Jnr).

posted on September 17th, 2005, 12:31 pm

well bush had a detaled simalation that out lined the probloms costed in new orleans in detal. this incooded a breef and a cd simulation of what hapind in new orleans be for Katrina. and meny uther organations have wonred about the probloms with the levys. so what duss bush do cuts funding to fema repases its hed guy with a hed case and merges it with homland sucraty degrating feama evin more.

be for Katrina bush has a nuff time to get resores in plase and start pusioning aid workers and socraty. he did not do enuff thing that he shood have dun in prep for the strom. or after it took him 5 days to get food in to the city and sucraty. thare wher milatry resors that wher not called on investigated post storm.

posted on September 17th, 2005, 12:33 pm

polution quite well have played a role in Katrina size and strinth

you said it yourself. don't twist my words on something and i don't think because of the devastation of Orlando you can blame it on pollution because loads of F5 are born over oceans but usually dies out over oceans aswell. and for a hurricane you need warm and cool winds not water. And i have enough facts and common sense to do live near an potential disaster area or atleast be prepaired for it.

because bad things happen but the only thing you are good at is pointing it at a president who couldn't stop that disaster anyway. Can you cope that in your minds utopian world idea? because that is fantasy. it would be ideal but just ins't possible

[ewm90]

posted on September 17th, 2005, 12:34 pm

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yes it made the water wormer strintaning Katrina.

you need to do some resherch on haw pution efects timpacher of the earth. thares a reson why its called golbal worming or the green house efect.