Uninviting Community

posted on May 2nd, 2011, 10:19 am

I actually consider FO to be one of the most inviting communities out there. Due to it's small size many people know each other quite fast and I haven't met some dumb 12year old kids that insult people for being rude. Instead there are only 1 or 2 people with that behaviour, but they are much older .

Don't take it that seriously cbosdell. You'll find out fast with which people it makes sense to start discussions and with which not, since the latter is a quite limited group...

posted on May 2nd, 2011, 11:58 pm

hey, I would like to play a 1v1 against you  i hear you were a good player  it would be nice to see how you play in this new version of fleet ops   i mostly am in TS and never look into tunngle chat... so... try to reach me please! i'll try to reach you if i ever see you in tunngle!

posted on May 3rd, 2011, 12:11 am

Nice to have you back, cbosdell .

  I can sympathize with your desire to have everything be peachy, but I'd also like to just remind you that, as our community grows larger, the anonymity grows as well and brings out worse things from people.  That is simply the rule of the internet.  You may have to thicken your skin a little bit in order to accommodate the fact that Flops is gaining new users and the MP community has grown.  There are going to be lots of people at various skill levels now and there will doubtless be times when people are unwilling to be as accommodating in games as we'd like.  Them's just the brakes.


  So don't worry too much.    Sometimes people like to limit the players in game to reduce lag.  Sometimes people do rematches.  Sometimes people have a limited knowledge of English (and might come across as rude) or might just be somewhat blunt people.  It's all part of the internetz

posted on May 3rd, 2011, 6:59 am

Not wishing to step on anyones toes or anything but coming from a new member to the FO community I can say the forums are often rougher than online gaming. Now I am not new to online communities or Armada in general having been in the Armada Community since the early Armada 1 days, mainly making mods and models, I can say that the Fleet Ops community does have a bad name due to many members in the past coming over to A2Files, AFC and MSFC and putting down many members making mods or what not because they weren't or related to FO. It was this attitude that caused me for so long to consider playing and mod FO but never making any decesions.

Back to gaming as I am going a little off topic I have only had less than half a dozen games and I can say only one member was rather rude to me, all the others were exceptional and helped me as I don't know much about FO. This member I have no intentions of naming really peaved me off, due to having to leave unannounced as my wife's stiches bust open as she had only been home from hospital after an operation for a few days. When I cam back me and my teammate were pretty dead and when I told the other team one simply said "that's what pause is for." I mean come on it was an emergency one that almost had a emergency trip back to hospital. I wasn't worried that we had lost, it's part of playing games and life in general, but the lack of consideration was, lets just say he didn't make a friend that day.

But yeah my post may be pretty unrelated but someone may like to hear it. I think a little more politeness rather than being too lazy to type the full thing wouldn't hurt and we all must remember cultural differences as not everyone here comes from the one country, what might not be offensive to one player in a country could be offensive to another player in a different country. It's something I think anyone involved in a online community or game needs to continually think about, if they can't be bothered then they have no right to be here or anythere else online.

posted on May 5th, 2011, 11:54 am

21:19:14 cbosdell : 2 in a game already started
21:19:15 cbosdell : leaving 9
21:19:19 cbosdell : minus 6 in that game
21:19:25 cbosdell : leavingme and 2 people that are afk
21:19:28 cbosdell : basically a big f u to me
21:21:48 cbosdell : i'm posting about this in the forums

OH THOSE RUDE PEOPLE BEING AFK INSTEAD OF BEING THERE TO GIVE YOU A GAME THE SECOND YOU WANT IT!!!!111


Truth is it's the FOURMS were you're likely to have issues with people. When ingame, folks tend to be much more polite.

Also, if you get on at odd hours (like I tend to do) which include late at night US time  (which also includes morning hours in europe) not many people will be on, meaning you need to wait a while to have enough for a game, or settle for a 1on1 or 3p ffa.

If you cant deal with that, reality, well.... yeah that therapist quip may be not just sarcasm but accurate.

posted on May 5th, 2011, 4:24 pm

Seems like a bit of a misunderstanding to me . I myself choose certain moment when to be 'direct' and, at those times, I come across as rude but in truth: I mean no harm. I am simply being as direct as I can, to avoid any shadow of a doubt of confusion.

Alas I, like yourself, cannot say what was going through the mind of the person who was rude and/or direct towards you. However, I take all text based conversations with a pinch of salt . It's just too much of a minefield to assume the thoughts of another, as it means filling in the gaps with ones own perceptions.

Welcome back though dude. I vaguely remember your name from the forum, a while back

[Anonymous]

posted on May 5th, 2011, 4:38 pm

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Hey Cbos! 

Yeah, honestly I can say that i haven't played online recently, but I have used tunngle.  A couple patches ago I played a couple of games and this is what i learned from the experance.

the forums, though harsher than other forums are more public, so people tend to hold certain things back.

The chat room is a different story.  Because most of the members here are not bad, it is generally is nice place.  Players will poke at you, and make sometimes rude remarks, but most of the time it is all in good fun.  sometimes though, the competition gets the better of them and they lose that control that they might have on the forums.  I also learned that, because it is more private, people sometimes don't hold back at all.  Cursing is alot more prevalent, people are less forgiving, and sometimes they are just rude because there is no time filter between posts and they don't think before they type.  And, with more and more members playing, some of which aren't even forum members, it is nolonger as tight a group as it use to be so there is less accountability.

But you can't let this get you down man.   Ignore the fools if you come across them and have fun. 

posted on May 5th, 2011, 6:51 pm

Then there are people like Mr. Tok'ra whom you just have to ignore ... 

posted on May 6th, 2011, 12:41 am

I did say fools right?

just in good fun. 

posted on May 9th, 2011, 10:18 pm

As a person who just started playing online a few days ago, I'd like compliment everyone's behavior.

Sure, the forum can get dicey sometimes, Tungle and TeamSpeak are full of people willing to help and play games. I don't have any complaints after my first foray into MP. On the contrary, I very much enjoyed everyone's company and look forward to more free time soon so I can play again.

posted on May 10th, 2011, 12:27 pm

Heh I actually recently had a go in an online match with the release of 3.2.0. As expected I was thoroughly thrashed but I had a lot of fun.

[TParis]

posted on May 10th, 2011, 3:02 pm

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I'm not really part of the online FO community but the times I played online it sure was much more inviting than the ones of any other game I have played online (except for some independent titles maybe).

I have been playing stock A2 online for years. As A2 was all about rushing it was really easy to detect newbies (alone any stock map was ahted by the community, for good reasons though). So newbies were excluded all the time, mostly some clans gave a helping hand by training those.

Just try to stay polite and things should work out. Luckily FO is not a DotA based game...

posted on May 10th, 2011, 10:21 pm

I'm not really part of the online FO community but the times I played online it sure was much more inviting than the ones of any other game I have played online (except for some independent titles maybe).

I know, right?

Anyone try playing "Starcraft" or "Brood War" online? That place is full of people who don't even give you the benefit of a "gg" before rage-quitting and attempting to hack your computer because you had the audacity to beat him/her fairly and squarely.

I can't speak for the community now after the sequel, but I doubt much has changed.

Maybe it's just cause a few bad apples spoil the bunch... but even FlOps doesn't have any seriously bad apples to complain about.

Point is, I like you guys!

posted on May 10th, 2011, 10:28 pm

Tokra and Myles just love each other 

posted on May 13th, 2011, 10:57 am

I find the impression that "Rudeness is a fact of Life on the Internet" is a cop out and a very poor excuse. People feel that they are completely immune to any consequences to their action so all the restraints come off. The interesting thing about this is the ruder they are on then internet the more likely it is they are at the bottom of the food chain in Real Life. The very bottom. The nicer members of the FO Community, who make up the majority by far, are fun people and are as helpful as any other person to a newbie. The rude ones depicted herein are typical of the kinds of people whom have so little control over their Real Life they feel the need to dominate any social situation they are in on the Internet. They cannot help themselves and stop this kind of boorish behavior because they do not know how and the consequences of their actions are so small as to be laughable.

It takes TWO people to have an argument. And in any argument neither side is saying anything more than, "I'm right and you're stupid!". Neither side is listening nor does either side care what the other is saying. There are three sides to any argument - Yours. His. The Truth. Complaining about rudeness on the Internet merely brings more attention to the ones who do it the most anyway. Doing so rewards bad behavior. Is this what you really want?

A reasonable solution is to remember the usernames of the rude people and simply be someplace else when they start all the attention-mongering B.S. By interacting with them and such you are merely reinforcing their negative behavior and further, you are allowing them to turn you into them. Do you really want that? Yeah, it's easy to say. Yeah, it sounds sensible. Yeah, its tough to do. And yeah, you'd like nothing better than to put the no-good S.O.B. in his place once and for all! But, FO is a game. Entertainment. As are these forums. I come here after a hard day's work to relax and chill. Just like in my hometown, there are people here I avoid. Because being around them is unpleasant. Complaining publicly about them is the fastest way I know to make them feel really good about themselves. "Sorry, Commander. Not interested."