Is cloaked beaming a bug?

[Equinox1701e]

posted on July 27th, 2010, 12:11 am

Last edited by Equinox1701e on July 27th, 2010, 12:16 am, edited 1 time in total.

Well in the example with troy, the cloak was in the process of being activated, then thecommunicator should suffice to focus the beam sharply enough to track her out.

Which episode does the riker-example refer to?

Actually Troi did NOT have a combadge, she was kidnapped and had none of her starfleet equipment, so you obviously dont need a homing beacon to beam to a ship while its cloaking. Also we are talking about beaming to a ship while its cloaking are we not? You point out that they have "toys" (which i already stated) to help beam over, true they do, however once you get your first group on the enemy ship as Dom already pointed out they can just use the existing combadges to lock onto. Honestly with all the evidence im suprised you dont think its possible.

Now if were talking about a fully cloaked ship thats been discovered that brings up some other variables which may make it more difficult, but the topic started with beaming to a ship while it was cloaking so thats primarily what im looking at.

Also heres another example, Star Trek IV. They beamed a people several times to a cloaked bop, just another instance showing cloaks NOT blocking transporters.

posted on July 27th, 2010, 12:45 pm

Also we are talking about beaming to a ship while its cloaking are we not?

I can only speak for myself, but I think we are not. We were at the beginning of the thread, but now we are talking abou beaming onto a ship that is already fully cloaked (and has no helping stuff on it). Nevertheless, thanks for that interesting piece of information.

Concerning beaming on and off ships beingin the process of cloaking i fully agree with you as well as with dominus statement 

Also heres another example, Star Trek IV. They beamed a people several times to a cloaked bop, just another instance showing cloaks NOT blocking transporters.

As I can't remember that szene, these were enemy vessels right? And wasn't there any "trick" with it?

posted on July 27th, 2010, 1:49 pm

Star Trek IV was the one where they went back in time to save the whales. Kirk and co stole a bop from some kilingons in STIII and were using it to return to federation space, neverless the end up cloaked parked in the middle of some park and transported several people throughout the movie, all the time remaining cloaked.

posted on July 28th, 2010, 10:03 pm

To be fair, the BOP wasn't moving at all, and they were the ones transporting through their own cloak.

posted on July 28th, 2010, 10:24 pm

Motion is relative to the observer. We cannot presume that the BoP was in perfect rotational synchrony with the planet below, no?

posted on July 28th, 2010, 10:29 pm

However, the coordinates of the people beamed where constant at the time of beaming, relative to the bird of prey, which is presumably what is required.

posted on July 28th, 2010, 10:39 pm

Motion is relative to the observer. We cannot presume that the BoP was in perfect rotational synchrony with the planet below, no?

Which BoP? The one from the movie had landed on planet, while the one that took Picard to Romulus was presumably about as still as a ship could get in space.

posted on July 29th, 2010, 12:01 am

To be fair, the BOP wasn't moving at all, and they were the ones transporting through their own cloak.

I was merely reiterating the fact that cloaks do not block transporter beams, weather it was from a stationary object doesn't really matter.