Is cloaked beaming a bug?

[Drrrrrr]

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 11:47 am

Last edited by Drrrrrr on July 23rd, 2010, 4:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Does anyone consider beaming on cloaked ships a bug?

EDIT: To be more precise...does anyone calls beaming on cloakING ships a bug?...the point is, it is impossible to counter this "strategy" with low crew ships against high crew or multiple small ships.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 5:47 pm

Yes it can be countered if you have other ships to help you out. Theres only a 2-4 second window, and it requires a bit of micro. ^^ And if you ask me its a good way to combat cloaking races.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 5:57 pm

I'm ambivalent to it. It's an interesting tactic which I do use, but it carries risks as well for the 'beamer'. You can change directions easily with a cloaking ship to evade the capture, but it can be frustrating and seem too easy. I know I've captured a few low crew vets in this way

[mimesot]

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 6:10 pm

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No it's not a bug. I think its just a never seen mis-feature that people got so used to, that it is considered FO canon by now. To me it is still severe BS (not gameolay wise but canon StarTrek wise).

EDIT: Stuff in the brackets.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 6:40 pm

Id recomend decloaking on all the sheildless ships and wiping them out

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 6:44 pm

To me it is still severe BS.

i disagree, if prepared for a cloak u can exploit their lack of shields. like the torpedo in generations. they knew the bop was gonna cloak (as they were causing it) and could hit it while it had no shields.

if the enemy drops their shields and your ships are ready (ie your micro is good enough, or you have a troopship which is always ready, ie on full auto) then u can start beaming over, and not all of those boarding redshirts are gonna die instantly, some might set up a little mini base, and they have communicators, which can signal for reinforcements to beam in.

in my opinion, if u start beaming over to an enemy ship then that one ship should remain visible for as long as the boarding parties are there and can signal their location for u to attack, then after a few seconds after u stop beaming, the redshirts get killed and u lose visibility.

Id recomend decloaking on all the sheildless ships and wiping them out

that is a risk of doing this technique if you arent borg.

thats why i dont do the beaming until i have forced the very last ship(s) to cloak. most people dont retreat everything at once, only damaged ships.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 6:53 pm

In earlygame the cloak capture is way too powerful...especially against Feds.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 6:57 pm

In earlygame the cloak capture is way too powerful...especially against Feds.

erm feds dont have cloak.

do u mean its way to powerful FOR feds to do it against cloaking races?

it would be easier for feds to do it, as warpins have large crews. but harder in the same way as warpins arent all fast. the excel is quite slow.

also in early game most players wont have enough ships with large crew to do this trick. i think the transporter stops working after a while, possibly when its drained a lot of crew.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 7:24 pm

The most balanced patch to date and everyone is still  over the silliest things.  "Way too powerful?"

No, you need to move your ships out of the way of the transport.

I mean, that's how you take over cloaked scouts, yes?  By detecting them and beaming over.  Stuff like that was done all the time in trek.

I love how people who only play cloaking races think "beaming" is overpowered.  You're really making my day.

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 7:49 pm

I do not only play cloaking races...

The cloak capture can be nasty if you lose serkas or other slow or low crew vessels...

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 7:53 pm

You do realize you can also transport aboard their ships that way, or transport aboard yours without them seeing it  . Furthermore, I wouldn't call Serkas exactly low crewed (100), not to mention if you send a lone one in and you are facing a ton of enemy ships boarding it... 

posted on July 23rd, 2010, 10:23 pm

The problem I have with it is that you can continue beaming AFTER the ship has fully cloaked.  This makes no sense to me and seems illogical...it's risky enough beaming to a moving vessel...add in the fact that the vessel is cloaked and it sounds like there would be a lot of crew beamed into the bulkheads...

[Anonymous]

posted on July 24th, 2010, 1:15 am

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or like somebody else said... boarding party could be transmitting short range signal for transporters to lock on

but that is somewhat wrong anyway... why not use that signal to get weapons lock 

posted on July 24th, 2010, 1:19 am

Because you want to take over the ship!  Rawr!

And because your people are onboard.

posted on July 24th, 2010, 1:19 am

but that is somewhat wrong anyway... why not use that signal to get weapons lock 

Well, the Star Trek answer would be that you wouldn't want to kill your own crew, right?  :lol:

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