KA2: Empire at War 1.2 beta
posted on November 15th, 2012, 2:16 am
Correct. My first FleetOps release 
The only other steps required are outlined in the posts above. As mentioned, regrettable but unavoidable.
The only other steps required are outlined in the posts above. As mentioned, regrettable but unavoidable.
posted on November 16th, 2012, 1:29 pm
I hath discoveredded something interesting
Whether a ship has crew or not is irrelevant to it self-destructing as a map unit.
What affects it is something rather interesting and in retrospect, makes sense. In order for map units not to self-destruct, the team they are on has to have at least 1 station. If they have a base, like my Orion Pirates, Mirak, Lyrans, Hydrans etc do, then they don't self-destruct.
The reason for this is so that once a player destroys all the stations of an AI player, he doesn't have to play hunt the submarine around the entire map looking for that last Talon Class Scout that's cloaked behind a nebula. A work around for those of us that want our map units to stay around and do something is to give them a base, and thanks to FleetOps you don't even need a special ODF for it. Any base will do. Using the map editor, make it invisible and invincible.
I noticed this after a test session playing my Outback Region map. The Orion Pirates hung around and did all their piratey stuff, until I blew up their base. After that, the remaining ships self-destructed. This functionality is GREAT for the Orions and such, as it makes perfect sense. Not so much for Space Monsters Ergo my work around.
Whether a ship has crew or not is irrelevant to it self-destructing as a map unit.
What affects it is something rather interesting and in retrospect, makes sense. In order for map units not to self-destruct, the team they are on has to have at least 1 station. If they have a base, like my Orion Pirates, Mirak, Lyrans, Hydrans etc do, then they don't self-destruct.
The reason for this is so that once a player destroys all the stations of an AI player, he doesn't have to play hunt the submarine around the entire map looking for that last Talon Class Scout that's cloaked behind a nebula. A work around for those of us that want our map units to stay around and do something is to give them a base, and thanks to FleetOps you don't even need a special ODF for it. Any base will do. Using the map editor, make it invisible and invincible.
I noticed this after a test session playing my Outback Region map. The Orion Pirates hung around and did all their piratey stuff, until I blew up their base. After that, the remaining ships self-destructed. This functionality is GREAT for the Orions and such, as it makes perfect sense. Not so much for Space Monsters
Ergo my work around.
posted on November 16th, 2012, 4:09 pm
posted on November 16th, 2012, 4:56 pm
Nice find
posted on November 16th, 2012, 5:44 pm
Well put it this way, after adding the invisible base (or as it's called in the ODF, "Secret Invisible Space Monster Nest" 
) my Asteroid Miners and Planet Killer didn't go and commit hara-kiri after ten minutes.
) my Asteroid Miners and Planet Killer didn't go and commit hara-kiri after ten minutes.
posted on November 16th, 2012, 11:02 pm
posted on November 17th, 2012, 11:52 am
posted on November 18th, 2012, 7:12 am
posted on November 18th, 2012, 10:11 am
It is indeed awesome to finally be able to play this on FO. If you need help with anything or you need any new models and textures let me know. I can never get enough TMP era stuff. 
posted on November 18th, 2012, 2:16 pm
posted on November 18th, 2012, 2:35 pm
Well, it was actually the usual FilesNetwork mindless drooling morons who, after I discovered that weird incompatibility thing I've mentioned with the old texture files, decided that my mod was "teh wrst evA!" and decided to just repeatedly bash their head against the wall rather than perform the fix I advised them of.
Then we had the admin telling me I ought to be grateful that they let me pull the file (just to fix it initially) because if I read the small print, A2Files now owned my mod because I had uploaded it. Horrified by this, that was the point I removed KA2. And so the debacle began...
Anyways all in the past
You are right to a point Worf, I do try and keep the feeling of KA and SFC, the classic era of Trek Gaming, however as the new Romulan models show I am not averse to changing the models for more detailed ones. It all depends on whether I feel a new model would take things too far from the roots. The biggest quandry for me was the new War Eagle model, as it's completely different to the original. However I felt it kept the right feel, and it also strengthened the link to TNG as it was now clearly the ancestor of the Melak and D'Dereidex.
Nephalim, the only models i'd be after are some of the more obscure ones from KA, namely the various Civilian Freighters, (I have the Altair Star though) and the Federation Sensor Probe (the one from the first campaign mission). If it's possible to help with those, i'd greatly appreciate it
Then we had the admin telling me I ought to be grateful that they let me pull the file (just to fix it initially) because if I read the small print, A2Files now owned my mod because I had uploaded it. Horrified by this, that was the point I removed KA2. And so the debacle began...
Anyways all in the past
You are right to a point Worf, I do try and keep the feeling of KA and SFC, the classic era of Trek Gaming, however as the new Romulan models show I am not averse to changing the models for more detailed ones. It all depends on whether I feel a new model would take things too far from the roots. The biggest quandry for me was the new War Eagle model, as it's completely different to the original. However I felt it kept the right feel, and it also strengthened the link to TNG as it was now clearly the ancestor of the Melak and D'Dereidex.
Nephalim, the only models i'd be after are some of the more obscure ones from KA, namely the various Civilian Freighters, (I have the Altair Star though) and the Federation Sensor Probe (the one from the first campaign mission). If it's possible to help with those, i'd greatly appreciate it
posted on November 19th, 2012, 8:58 pm
posted on November 19th, 2012, 9:30 pm
posted on November 19th, 2012, 10:41 pm
After fiddling around I finally got the game to run. How it doesn't make sense at all to have a separate mod called "CutDown" influence the actual mod... that's absolutely strange. At least a link and explanation of what the "STA2 Classic" Mod is would be nice in the explanation.
just finished the first game and I have to say ... I like.
just finished the first game and I have to say ... I like.
posted on November 19th, 2012, 10:51 pm
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