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posted on August 23rd, 2010, 1:20 pm

but 2 vincs also mean less offensive

u will only need 1 double vinca, and the fact it gives a sphere 1000 more energy for regen more than makes up for the double vinca doing less damage. in fact i usually keep the double vinca well outside of battle, never letting it get shot at.

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posted on August 23rd, 2010, 2:39 pm

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myles wtf are you talking about in your earlier post, i never said such things

and i believe borg have a bug that makes them not have any kind of support ships... so dode isn't a support, it doesn't even have a label

and how the hell am i suppose to fight off galaxy spam? >.>

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 2:43 pm

The dode tooltip calls it a support ship. The Borg aren't bugged, just unique.

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posted on August 23rd, 2010, 2:51 pm

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myles wtf are you talking about in your earlier post, i never said such things

you said on ts after the game how u made small ships for that reason. unless i misunderstood you. if there is a different reason, please explain why u made lots of scubes/probes.

all dodecahedra are support ships, all of them, any module combination. meaning they make intrepids s**t themselves.

about warpins, he got a very lucky warpin. but he also never expanded after that dodeca. u could have easily outresourced him, making more spheres and a diamond for +70% damage etc. but instead u spammed low tier vessels.

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 2:59 pm

federation can live off 1 moon pair  >:(

and i "small" has higher chance of evading torpedo

and scube with torpedo is a 'mini-version' of dode spam >.>

and i'm pretty sure i saw a post somewhere here saying how dode has a bug where it has level system on it's tool-tip but it's not a support?

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 3:08 pm

The scubes will be killed way too fast by even small fleets of Fed. So against the common Intrepid spam use Dodecs since they get reduced damage and do more damage by themselfs. Once you can repell the Intrepids you need things vs the warpins. And all you can get are Assims or Spheres. The non-auto-Assims are good with Assim avatar which was not yours. So left is the Sphere...

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 3:08 pm

federation can live off 1 moon pair  >:(

anyone can live off of 1 moon pair, ur ships dont magically explode if u dont have money.

and i "small" has higher chance of evading torpedo

it was only 20% chance, which wasnt significant seeing as the feds are awesome vs borg and u let them get plenty of ships.

and scube with torpedo is a 'mini-version' of dode spam >.>

scube is still low tech, its a starting ship like sabres monsoons bugs etc u dont stick with them all day. in fleetops higher tech ships are more cost effective than lower tech. the only reason u would go back in tech is lack of money, or hard counters to spam. but your probes and scubes didnt counter very well. dodeca spam would have worked as the intreps would have died.

and i'm pretty sure i saw a post somewhere here saying how dode has a bug where it has level system on it's tool-tip but it's not a support?

nope, maybe you are confusing it with the assimilator, which many called a support for a while, but it turned out it wasnt a support ship.

the dodeca is the borg's one and only support ship, and as such castrates intrepids with rusty scissors.

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 3:15 pm

100% agree with Myles. Best strat against Intrepid spamming fed is Dodes. Intercept or Intercept-Regen-Dodes. Then build one double-Vinculum-Dode and go into Sphere. Also works perfectly against bomber spamming Dominion.

Great commentaries Myles and govindaa!

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 3:31 pm

I like the highlights thank you myles! 

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 3:34 pm

you're welcome

thanks for the positive comments

posted on August 23rd, 2010, 4:25 pm

and i believe borg have a bug that makes them not have any kind of support ships... so dode isn't a support, it doesn't even have a label

Dode is a support.  If you look at the Weapon ODF's you'll see that the damage between a Dode and a unit with ADAI reflects the change that a support gives.

and how the hell am i suppose to fight off galaxy spam? >.>

  Spam?  You mean if the Galaxy's come in the warpins alot?  Spheres will take Galaxy's apart just like anything else.

posted on August 25th, 2010, 12:28 am

and scube with torpedo is a 'mini-version' of dode spam >.>

Intercept Scubes do reduced damage to Intrepids IIRC. Intrepids are medium, despite what many players' common sense seems to say about their size.

posted on August 26th, 2010, 3:20 pm

This is more or less a strategic request. But Can I see exactly how someone rushed the Phalaxes? I want to see how it could also be countered (as Dominion or Klingon).

posted on August 26th, 2010, 3:24 pm

I would like to see a phalanx tush aswell   I"m not good with risner, so it would be a good strat for meh to try out.

posted on August 26th, 2010, 4:16 pm

Isn't the term "Phalanx Rush" and oxymoron?

Anyway, would be interesting in seeing someone trying to use it.